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Offline sfff

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Right hand tremolo help
on: October 10, 2011, 01:38:49 PM
Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew of a way to practice right hand tremolos. The ones that I am thinking of in particular appear in the third movement of Beethoven's moonlight sonata.

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Re: Right hand tremolo help
Reply #1 on: October 11, 2011, 12:24:21 AM
Which measures?

In general, tremolos are almost all done with the wrist. Rotation of the wrist is quite a natural movement of the hand (although it involves your forearm and upper arm as well). Tremolos are basically rotating the wrist back and forth while the fingers you are tremoloing with are in the right place in order to play the right notes. If it's a measured tremolo, then rotate your wrist back and forth in accordance to the note value.
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Re: Right hand tremolo help
Reply #2 on: October 12, 2011, 02:44:33 AM
Hi thank you for the reply.

The measures that I am talking about are I believe 261 and onward. This is a little after the first repeat.

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Re: Right hand tremolo help
Reply #3 on: October 12, 2011, 08:47:33 PM
Nevertheless, tremolos are done with the wrist and your fingers are simply aiming for the right keys.
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Re: Right hand tremolo help
Reply #4 on: October 12, 2011, 09:01:34 PM
Nevertheless, tremolos are done with the wrist and your fingers are simply aiming for the right keys.

That's a very extreme way of putting it. This approach only works if the fingers are already highly developed. My tremolos were poorly controlled and sluggish for years, with this approach. If you don't engage the fingers, there's a major limit to speed. It's just that those who have highly developed finger technique don't focus on this aspect. If you don't have that, this approach can be truly disastrous for some. It held me back for many years.

Also, the wrist has no way of getting involved in anything much to do with tremolos. It just needs to be loose. You cannot rotate from the wrist- it comes from the elbow and acts upon the whole forearm. The wrist is just a joint in the middle. This may sound like a mere technicality, but I'm not just being pedantic. The more you understand any rotation to stem from further back, the easier it tends to be. Thinking at the wrist (straight away) can sometimes cause forearm stiffness, unless the action is already very well evolved.

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Re: Right hand tremolo help
Reply #5 on: October 12, 2011, 09:09:37 PM
Hmm, i never thought of it that way, I guess my fingers were already developed enough when I first heard rotating the wrist was key to tremolos, which was about 2 years ago.
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