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Offline drooxy

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What's next ?
on: September 05, 2004, 11:09:29 PM
Hello everybody,

I am currently polishing the Nocturne Opus 9 n° 2 from Chopin (*) and I would like to have some suggestions about a new piece I could start to work on now...  :-/

Note that, because I love so much Chopin, I would see no problem to continue with him !

Thanks for your inputs !

Drooxy

(*) I am "polishing" that piece thanks to the precious help I got from that forum and, more specifically, from a couple of people who will hopefully recognize themselves  ;)

May they be assured that I am very grateful !  :)
Drooxy

Offline donjuan

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Re: What's next ?
Reply #1 on: September 06, 2004, 04:15:39 AM
Try a different kind of mood in Chopin- how about the Grande Valse Brilliante in Eb Major?

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Re: What's next ?
Reply #2 on: September 06, 2004, 09:19:27 AM
DonJuan,

OK for the change of mood !

But isn't there a big technical gap between the Nocturne and the Grande Valse Brillante ? I have started to work on that latter some years ago and I am afraid it is too difficult and too long for my level...

Just let me know what you think !

Thank you !

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Re: What's next ?
Reply #3 on: September 06, 2004, 02:10:03 PM
oh yes chopin waltzes are excellent i'm learning two right now- op.64 no3 and op.42, they're around the same standard as op.9 no2 (my FAVE nocturne i'm gonna start learning it soon) and they're bril waltzes if you're into them.

as for maybe other composers, who do you like, or would you like to try something new? if you can take your range down (cos there's way too much music out there!) then i can suggest maybe a few more pieces
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Re: What's next ?
Reply #4 on: September 06, 2004, 05:57:46 PM
Thanks for the idea... What about the Waltze opus 69 n°2 in Bm ? I like it very much and looking at the music sheet I believe that I should be able to play it...

Let me know !

Cheers,
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Offline donjuan

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Re: What's next ?
Reply #5 on: September 06, 2004, 06:15:09 PM
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Thanks for the idea... What about the Waltze opus 69 n°2 in Bm ? I like it very much and looking at the music sheet I believe that I should be able to play it...

Let me know !

Cheers,
Drooxy

well, it's certainly easier than the Valse Brilliante, but to me it sounds melancholy like a nocturne.  The very first Chopin work I did was the Etude Op.10 No.3, but I found it kind of hard...the second Chopin I did was the minute waltz Op.64 No.1.  YES!!!

Why dont you check out the Minute Waltz- It is slightly more challenging than that nocturne you played, but certainly possible, and it is a very cheery, charming piece.  With Chopin, you have to be careful not to play too many sad pieces or your repertoire will not reflect the composer well.  (And I know- It's hard, most of the great works of Chopin do sound sad.)

donjuan

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Re: What's next ?
Reply #6 on: September 06, 2004, 06:24:32 PM
Donjuan,

Yes, I thought of the Minute Waltz but I have to confess that I am impressed (and scared !) by the speed it demands...  ::)

As you say, it is challenging though and it is also a piece that people can recognize... I don't know...

:-/

Drooxy

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Re: What's next ?
Reply #7 on: September 06, 2004, 06:43:05 PM
well, you dont plan on only playing slow stuff for the rest of your life, do you?  The thing about these fast paced works- You will practice them VERY slowly, and pickup speed.  Eventually you will never want to play them any slower.  Fast pieces only seem fast until you try them out. (and I dont mean sit down and sightread, I mean learn all the notes very slowly, and work on specific sections)


Anyway, I am sure you will make the best decision for you.  :)

Best Wishes,
donjuan

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Re: What's next ?
Reply #8 on: September 07, 2004, 07:15:46 PM
OK, ok... I'm gonna try it !!!

;D

Cheers,
Drooxy

PS: Oh, by the way, any tip regarding that piece will be welcome, of course  ;)
Drooxy

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Re: What's next ?
Reply #9 on: September 08, 2004, 03:00:47 AM
Good luck!

I rarely ever learn stuff hands separately, but here you may want to try that.  Make sure to use the elbow to guide the hand.  In the opening RH sequence, try to move your hand in a circular motion- it will help the notes be more even, and be easier in a faster speed than fingers alone.

The slow section of the piece is so very charming! remember rubato.

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Re: What's next ?
Reply #10 on: September 08, 2004, 04:04:48 AM
You could go for something completely different, yet the same – with the added advantage of not being such a battered piece: One of the John Field’s Nocturnes. They are beautiful (Field actually invented the nocturne) and easier than Chopin’s. My favourite is the A major.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.
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Re: What's next ?
Reply #11 on: September 08, 2004, 02:37:54 PM
Bernhard, Donjuan,

I listened to the Nocturne in A Major from Field and it is very nice indeed.

But I like Donjuan's idea  of changing of mood and I also like the challenge in the Minute Waltz... Unless you believe this is far above my current level, I would like to try it !

By the way, isn't there some similarities in the right hand's movement between the first measures of that piece and the repeated sequence of Cb-Bb-C-A in the last measures of the Nocturne opus 9 N°2 ?  

:-/

That would be nice as I am also working on that right now...

;)

Thanks again for your answers !

:)

Cordially,
Drooxy
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