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Offline megadodd

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Brahms Ballade in G minor
on: November 24, 2011, 10:15:24 PM
I just got assigned to play this piece for my teacher in 2 weeks, I think it's abit of stretching my capability. I just looked over the sheets and I have to say, it looks and sound frightening, for a semi intermediate pianist.

ANY...advice will be looked upon with great enthusiasm. I love the piece.
To get it somewhat playable for my teacher, is it as hard as it looks?


So anyway, any tips would be appreciated, along with the musical advice- any insight on the piece and Brahms itself would be good, as I know little to nothing about the composer and how he 'wants things done' (?) .

Megad.

(I can't attach any sheets because I'm on a school computer, won't let me download anything)
Repertoire.
2011/2012

Brahms op 118
Chopin Preludes op 28
Grieg Holberg Suite
Mendelssohn Piano trio D minor op 49
Rachmaninoff Etude Tabelaux op 33 no 3 & 4 op 39 no 2
Scriabin Preludes op 1

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Re: Brahms Ballade in G minor
Reply #1 on: November 26, 2011, 11:14:53 AM
I've played this one myself.

With interpretation, that main theme in the B section (where you change from G minor to B major) I had a lot of difficulty with the execution of that melody. You want to practice that part slowly and musically before you play it fast.

It uses a lot of chords and the structure is a straight forward one ABA Coda. The articulation can be refined over time.

I takes one week to learn the A section and Coda (both the same). Another week to learn the B section.

The challenge you'll have is clarity of melodies over layers of chords. Get it to the point where you can play it fluently at a slow tempo so that when you come to your lesson, you can start focusing on interpretation.

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Re: Brahms Ballade in G minor
Reply #2 on: November 26, 2011, 01:36:13 PM

With interpretation, that main theme in the B section (where you change from G minor to B major) I had a lot of difficulty with the execution of that melody. You want to practice that part slowly and musically before you play it fast.

It uses a lot of chords and the structure is a straight forward one ABA Coda. The articulation can be refined over time.

The challenge you'll have is clarity of melodies over layers of chords. Get it to the point where you can play it fluently at a slow tempo so that when you come to your lesson, you can start focusing on interpretation.

Thank you for your insight!

I find the A section falling very nicely under my hands, that is a big relief.
 It seems as though that B section is the big struggle maker.

I want it to sound more pearly, in contrast to the unleashing A section. I've never come across a technique that makes it sound as pearly as the pros make it. (in any piece)
Repertoire.
2011/2012

Brahms op 118
Chopin Preludes op 28
Grieg Holberg Suite
Mendelssohn Piano trio D minor op 49
Rachmaninoff Etude Tabelaux op 33 no 3 & 4 op 39 no 2
Scriabin Preludes op 1

Offline pytheamateur

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Re: Brahms Ballade in G minor
Reply #3 on: November 26, 2011, 09:57:06 PM


Keep up the work.  Once you have mastered the piece, your playing will have reached the level expected of a student after 1 year of study at a conservatoire (the piece is in the DipABRSM syllabus).
Beethoven - Sonata in C sharp minor, Op 27 No 12
Chopin - Fantasie Impromptu, Nocturn in C sharp minor, Op post
Brahms - Op 118, Nos 2 & 3

Offline megadodd

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Re: Brahms Ballade in G minor
Reply #4 on: November 26, 2011, 10:22:29 PM

Keep up the work.  Once you have mastered the piece, your playing will have reached the level expected of a student after 1 year of study at a conservatoire (the piece is in the DipABRSM syllabus).

That's really great to hear!
Can you explain what DipABRSM is, hee hee? I'm not familiar at all with grades conscerning music.
I've heard of ABRSM ofcourse, and the 1-8.
So what is DipABRSM to the number grades?
Repertoire.
2011/2012

Brahms op 118
Chopin Preludes op 28
Grieg Holberg Suite
Mendelssohn Piano trio D minor op 49
Rachmaninoff Etude Tabelaux op 33 no 3 & 4 op 39 no 2
Scriabin Preludes op 1

Offline pytheamateur

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Re: Brahms Ballade in G minor
Reply #5 on: November 26, 2011, 11:37:57 PM
That's really great to hear!
Can you explain what DipABRSM is, hee hee? I'm not familiar at all with grades conscerning music.
I've heard of ABRSM ofcourse, and the 1-8.
So what is DipABRSM to the number grades?

DipABRSM is the lowest of the three diplomas offered by ABRSM, the other two being LRSM (final-year student) and FRSM (masters student).  So DipABRSM is the next step up from Grade 8, but I've heard there's a big gap between the two.
Beethoven - Sonata in C sharp minor, Op 27 No 12
Chopin - Fantasie Impromptu, Nocturn in C sharp minor, Op post
Brahms - Op 118, Nos 2 & 3

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Re: Brahms Ballade in G minor
Reply #6 on: November 27, 2011, 01:12:21 AM
DipABRSM is the lowest of the three diplomas offered by ABRSM, the other two being LRSM (final-year student) and FRSM (masters student).  So DipABRSM is the next step up from Grade 8, but I've heard there's a big gap between the two.

Oh, I see-
Thank you so much.

Still, any more insight on the piece would be appreciated  :)
Repertoire.
2011/2012

Brahms op 118
Chopin Preludes op 28
Grieg Holberg Suite
Mendelssohn Piano trio D minor op 49
Rachmaninoff Etude Tabelaux op 33 no 3 & 4 op 39 no 2
Scriabin Preludes op 1
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