Technique ? piano vs keyboard

[namui]

For those who have played both piano and (electronic, digital) keyboard, do you find that the technical skills for the two instruments contradict each other, or support each other ?

My (obvioiusly incomplete) list of different aspects between the two are :

1) feel and weight of the key action

2) aftertouch feature of keyboard (normally with effects)

3) various instrumental voices in keyboard (required different voicing technique), especially when spliting voices for left and right hand

4) sensitiveness (keyboard has higher tolerance to slight difference in the way a key is played, piano is much more sensitive)

Of course, music for the two instruments are different right from the score. But my point is on technical skill contradiction.

Sincerely,

namui

[namui]

After a few days, I guess I can conclude that no piano players in this forum seriously bother with (sampled, electronic, synthesizer) keyboard. But I could post some results I obtained from the opposite side (I asked the same question to some "keyboard" forums too).

The one I found quite interesting is - even some musicians who perform equally well on both will finally have their heart inclined towards on of the instruments, either keyboard or piano. The benefits of playing piano to playing keyboard is quite obvious. No one really points out the bad consequences of playing keyboard on the piano skills, but no one points out the benefit either.

just FYI

[Allan]

I have both a piano and a three manual Allen digital classical organ in my home (usually installed at churches!)   The touch of the two keyboards is, of course, quite different.  Both require work.  I almost always make a point to practice piano first to strengthen the fingers.  The greater tension on the piano forces the fingers to really work independently and cleanly.  If I have a real difficult passage in an organ piece, I take it to the piano and practice it without pedal.    On the organ both non-legato and legato playing are greatly enhanced by piano practice.  All the great organists, like Virgil Fox, stressed piano practice.  

[janice]

After a few days, I guess I can conclude that no piano players in this forum seriously bother with (sampled, electronic, synthesizer) keyboard.

I am VERY interested in what you have to say!!  My church has an electronic keyboard and I can't stand it!  The worse thing about it is the PEDAL.  It's almost non-existent!  It's hard, because when I learn a piece, I have to learn it WRONG, just so that it will sound good at church!  I have to practice it for weeks or months and hold the pedal down LONGER than necessary (it sounds all muddy)on my real piano.  

[Max]

Keyboards are inferior to real pianos. But..digital pianos are (for me) more convient as I can practise at times that suit me (tending to be early in morning and late at night), I can play stuff as midi into it, and I can spend hours messing around with the voices, and even sample my own.

But...nothing beats the feel of a good piano.

[namui]

I am VERY interested in what you have to say!!  My church has an electronic keyboard and I can't stand it!  The worse thing about it is the PEDAL.  It's almost non-existent!  It's hard, because when I learn a piece, I have to learn it WRONG, just so that it will sound good at church!  I have to practice it for weeks or months and hold the pedal down LONGER than necessary (it sounds all muddy)on my real piano.  

Thanks for the reply. At last, there is a case of playing keyboard being counterproductive to piano skills.

However, some benefits of keyboard (to playing piano) mentioned from other forums includes rhythmic sense (playing along with rhythm part) and broadened concepts of voicing (because of variety in characteristics of many sounds of keyboard). Anyway, these are opinion of keyboard musicians who mostly play jazz, new age, and other modern musics.

best,

namui