Chord Name Help.

[birdbrain]

Questionable Chord is F,B,C.  In a 4/4 progression play that 2 beats, then play F (F,A,C) 2 beats.  Slowly and with feeling
From the song Come See (performed by Michael W Smith on the album stand).  Key of C.  Simple sweet I, V, VI, iv progression.
In the middle the bridge/chorus/climactic change with a questionable chord.  No chord finder on the net (searched for couple hours) could name it.  Must be a mode thing.
If you like to hear it...

My lovely chord comes in just after 2 min 40 seconds. 
I look forward to your help. 
Thanks,
BB

PS hopefully I wrote out my roman chord names correctly.  I am a student, please critic me.... thanks

[ajspiano]

Depends on the underlying harmony - i didnt read your post too well :p sorry.

would probably call it an F major #4, or F7 #11 - depends whether E or Eb would fit with it based on what else is going on.. 

EDIT:

given a closer look, and that you said key of C - the major #4 is probably more likely to be the correct one. It may also be noted that you should omit the 3rd (A) since based on you're discription the sound will be that of tension (on the #4 chord) and release (on the straight F major chord)..   the B naturally falling onto the A..  if you play them together it will sound fairly disonant.

They would fit together (the A and B) better in the F7 #11 situation.. you'd still have to voice it correctly though.

Overall point being that if its major #4, you're in C major still, operating on the lydian mode. If its 7#11 you've modulated to a different key, in this case it would be to a lydian dominant mode of C minor, from the jazz melodic minor scale.. C D Eb F G A B C (tonic mode) - F G A B C D Eb F (lydian dominant mode)

AJ.

[keyofc]

I would think it is a C7 sus 4

[ajspiano]

I would think it is a C7 sus 4

But it has a b natural..

[ionian_tinnear]

I would call it an Fsus4.  Usually that would be a Bflat however Bnat is still a 4 and it is sustained..

[cjp_piano]

It is NOT a Fsus4 or a C7 or C7sus, those would have B FLAT. Having the B natural is what makes it interesting! I actually love this harmony (FBC resolving to FAC) and have used it when improvising at church. I'm not sure you can explain it with traditional theory. With pop or jazz theory, I guess you could say F #4.

[nystul]

Maybe the B could be thought of as an appoggiatura leading to the A of the prevailing F major harmony.  I guess you can't really write that in a fake book though...

[ajspiano]

crikey.. all this confusion..

Its just an F chord built on C majors Lydian mode - it is flat out not a Fsus or C7 sus chord as this demands a Bb, which the C major harmony does not have.

It can absolutely be explained in traditional theory - however, in the AMEB syllabus at least the concept of modes and building chords on every degree of the scale is not addressed until 7th grade and associate diploma level - and even then they barely touch it.

And how many people do you know with an Amus in theory?

As has been said already, the proper notation is F#4.

[keyofc]

Sorry -Just read it too fast - well then CMaj7sus
It can be interpreted in more than one ways, of course.


Lydian idea works too - just more complicated..

[ajspiano]

Sorry -Just read it too fast - well then CMaj7sus
It can be interpreted in more than one ways, of course.


Lydian idea works too - just more complicated..

Not usually my style to be argumentative - but you're still reading it too fast.

In isolation you're idea works, but it indidicates the idea that the "suspension" exists on the note "F" and that the tension/release sound should come into effect by lowering the F to an E, resulting in the CM7 harmony.

The OP clearly indicates that the chord plays FBC, and changes to FAC - the release is in the change between B and A - the shift to an F chord, from a suspended (sounding) F chord.

For the record I actually took the time to listen to the song -

- section begins ~2:45

The section in question follows a clear progression F, C, G, Am - each chord has the same pattern of playing the 4th then falling to the 3rd. - in context, it is very clearly an F chord - most likely on account of the thunderingly loud bass guitar playing a low F, and that aside - if you try the same voicing with a C bass, it just sounds like an F#4/C because the tension is still in the B-A transition.

[Bob]

Glancing through...

#11 maybe?  Extended chord?

[keyofc]

As I said, the lydian works too -