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Moonlight sonata 3rd mvt or Schubert sonata D 959 2nd mvt
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Topic: Moonlight sonata 3rd mvt or Schubert sonata D 959 2nd mvt
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beebert
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Moonlight sonata 3rd mvt or Schubert sonata D 959 2nd mvt
on: December 14, 2011, 04:15:10 PM
Which of these two movements (moonlight sonata 3rd movement and Schubert sonata D 959 2nd mvt Andantino) would you guys put as the hardest both musically and technically? What grade are these two movements?
Here is a link to the two pieces:
Beethoven:
Schubert:
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ajspiano
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Re: Moonlight sonata 3rd mvt or Schubert sonata D 959 2nd mvt
Reply #1 on: December 15, 2011, 01:09:13 AM
the complete Moonlight sonata is on the DipABRSM list. - When I was a teenager I did the 3rd movement alone as an extra list piece for an AMEB exam, it was considered Grade 8. Though I personally found it significantly more challenging than the 1st movement of the pastorale sonata, which was also on the Grade 8 list. Different pieces can be easy or hard for different people.
I'm not that familiar with the Schubert piece, and cant watch the videos right now.. or really have a clue about how technically difficult it is from watching a video.
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prongated
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Re: Moonlight sonata 3rd mvt or Schubert sonata D 959 2nd mvt
Reply #2 on: December 22, 2011, 06:38:15 AM
Interesting comparison, because they're 2 very different works! I play both sonatas (and the Pastoral too) in their entirety and found the 2 movts. very difficult for very different reasons.
The Moonlight 3rd is difficult to execute well because of the obvious technical chalenges in the passages. And the level of musicianship required in Beethoven is very demanding, and this is no exception.
In the Schubert, you will need to come up with the right kind of sound to sustain a melodic top line at the appropriate slow tempo. It's a much more similar kind of challenge to the Pastoral sonata. The middle section is just manic hellish! It's an incredibly powerful music, this.
More than anything else, I say they are very difficult simply so that they are given the proper respect they deserve. It is in no way meant to discourage.
I think one of the bad things about exams is the way grades supposedly "categorise" the difficulty of each work. I find that often people consequently consider such works as movts. from Schumann's Waldszenen, Romances and even the Pastoral sonata "easy" because they're not found in the AMus or LMus list. I for one can't imagine the Pastoral 1st movt. being performed well by just about any supposed 8th grader. But maybe someone will prove me wrong.
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