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Offline Ludvig_Van_Me

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Powerful orchestral pieces
on: September 10, 2004, 10:30:35 PM
Can anyone suggest any powerful pieces in the similier ilk as

Grieg's concerto in A minor and Tchaikovsky's concerto No.1?


Thanks

Offline klavierkonzerte

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #1 on: September 10, 2004, 11:39:21 PM
i mostly listen to concerto, here are my favorites

kullak piano concerto
dvorak cello/piano concerto
elgar cello/violin concertos
brahms violin concerto, piano concerto no2
tchaikovsky 2nd piano concerto
henselt concerto
moscheles  piano concerto no6
hiller piano concerto
bronsart piano concerto  

i'll add more later...

Offline Max

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #2 on: September 11, 2004, 12:41:19 AM
Webers Concerto for Clarinet and Piano

Tchaikofskys Symphonies

Offline Daevren

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #3 on: September 11, 2004, 12:46:03 AM
I don't know about powerful but Ravels Suite 2 of Daphnis et Chloé is generally accepted as the best orchestral work. Its impressive, huge, ground breaking and beautiful.

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #4 on: September 11, 2004, 01:09:54 AM
Brahms symphonies,
Wagner prelude to tristan und Isolde,
Beethoven symphonies no.3, 5, 7, 9, among others,
Brahms Requiem,
Elgar Symphnies,
Rachmaninov concertos,
Stravinsky Rite of spring,
Elgar Enigma variations,
Mahler symphonies no.1, 2, 5, 6, among others,
Shostakovich symphony no.7 leningrad,
Dvorak symphonies no.6, 7, 8, 9, among others,
Sibelius symphonies no.1, 2, 4, 5, 6,
Debussy la mer,
Rachmaninov symphony no.2,
Schumann piano concerto,
Scriabin poem of fire, poem of ecstasy,
Mendelssohn symphonies,
Tchaikovsky symphonies,
Saint-seans piano concertos no.2, 5,
Berlioz roman carnival overture,
Schubert symphonies no.8, 9,
Dvorak carnival overture,
Glinka overture to Ruslan and Ludmilla,
Borodin overture to prince Igor,
Rimpsky Korsakov scheherazade,
Holst planets,
Vaughan-Williams fantasia on a theme by Thomas Tallis,
Enescu symphony no.1,
Stravinsky Petrouchka.

Offline donjuan

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #5 on: September 11, 2004, 01:15:23 AM
Let's not forget Liszt's Piano Concerto No.2 and the Totentanz!  I have never heard such thunderous music (especially when Cziffra is at the helm ;))
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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #6 on: September 11, 2004, 01:33:19 AM
Thanks for the replys :)

Offline zhiliang

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #7 on: September 13, 2004, 06:09:57 AM
i would go for the Richard Strauss's Eine Alpensinfonie, Op. 64.
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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #8 on: September 13, 2004, 10:00:08 PM
I will agree with Daphnis and Chloe.  But don't leave out the 1st and 3rd suites either!  The CD I have has the entire Daphnis and Chloe, and the 3 suites flow seamlessly into another.

But there are a lot of other great works too.  Like:

La Valse, Bolero(The most programmed orchestral piece), Ma mere l'oyle also by Ravel

The Isle of the Dead by Rachmaninov
La Mer by Debussy
Copland's 3rd Symphony, Appalacian Spring
Scriabin's 3rd Symphony, Poem of Ecstasy, Prometheus, L'Act Preable

Samuel Barber:  Music for a Scene from Shelly op 7(very,very good!  But completely unknown!  Certainly powerful, as well.  An earlier work)
Also, Barber's essays, 1st symphony

There really is a lot more than this, most of the major composers for piano produced some oustanding orchestral music as well (with a few exceptions).  So just look up a composer on google, and you'll get a good start if you want to find something fresh.

Offline Daevren

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #9 on: September 13, 2004, 10:19:36 PM
Of course, but I like part II the best.

And the Bolero, I hate that piece.

Probably because it is overplayed.

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #10 on: September 14, 2004, 01:18:22 AM
That's a shame....

Why is it that when a piece becomes popular, people start to hate it?  It's true that the Bolero is played often- but the only time it reaches my ears is when I tell my computer or cd player to play it.  So it doesn't matter to me how many times it is played elsewhere because it just means that's more of a chance for someone else to hear it's beauty.

But then again, the Bolero is not an ordinary piece- the fact that it repeats itself again and again is too much (or too little) for some people to handle, that will always be understandable.  But repetition is not bad- it can be an effective means of musical communication.  Just look at the works of Steve Reich and John Adams!  And the 'minimalist' composers' music now demands a high amount of respect, rightfully so.

I think I'm rambling now.... so... I'll stop.

Offline Daevren

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #11 on: September 14, 2004, 02:25:43 AM
Well, I don't like it.

Do you like Pachelbel's Canon in Dm?

Offline Nightscape

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #12 on: September 14, 2004, 05:43:24 AM
Well.... that's not a powerful orchestral piece....

but it is rather catchy......

Offline DarkWind

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #13 on: September 14, 2004, 06:55:57 AM
The Bolero is nothing but a huge orchestral crescendo. Ravel was once quoted as saying, "I have written but one masterpiece, the Bolero. Yet, it has no music."

Also, nightscape, what do you mean as "most programmed orchestral piece" ?

For power, I would definetely say the 2nd and 5th Mahler Symphonies, although there are probably more, those are the two only pieces that come to my mind, along with pieces like Rite of Spring, some Dvorak Slavonic Dances, and Les Ridicules from Love of Three Oranges by Prokofiev.

Offline Nightscape

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #14 on: September 14, 2004, 07:08:34 AM
Sorry... that is a bit confusing.  I meant to say that is is the most oftenly placed piece on concert programs.  But that's hard to prove, I guess.

Offline Daevren

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #15 on: September 14, 2004, 04:31:20 PM
"Well.... that's not a powerful orchestral piece.... "

I was just mocking you. I think that one is awful too.

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #16 on: September 14, 2004, 08:12:48 PM
Oh, I thought you really liked it.

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #17 on: September 14, 2004, 10:43:19 PM
Haha...

BTW, in this country Ravels Bolero is the most often played music during sex, according to one poll on this topic.

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Re: Powerful orchestral pieces
Reply #18 on: September 17, 2004, 03:59:36 PM
beethoven's - 9th symphny 2nd movement
saint-saens- la danse macabre
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