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Offline chopinlover96

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The Chopin Valses
on: December 25, 2011, 08:54:02 PM
I was wondering what the relative difficluty of the waltzes was compared to his other works such as the noctunres. Im particlularly interested in the Grande Valses Op 18,34 and 42.

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Chopin-Waltz Op.42
Brahms-Intermezzo Op.118 No.2
Field-Sonata No.1
Beethoven-Sonata Op.14 No.1
Bach-Prelude and Fugue in B flat No.21 WTC 1

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Re: The Chopin Valses
Reply #1 on: December 26, 2011, 12:31:06 AM
The two hardest Chopin waltzes are the op18 and op 42 waltzes, with op 34 no3 not far behind, around assosciate level or DipAbrsm. I'm not sure about op 34 no 1 but no2 is only 7th grade standard. I think both the Nocturnes and Waltzes are just as hard. The waltzesd have a wider span of difficulty, however, with the easiest waltz approximately 5th grade. The easiest Nocturne is probably the one in F minor op 55 no2. Probably the hardest or one of the hardest of the nocturnes is op 48 no 1 in c minor.

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Re: The Chopin Valses
Reply #2 on: December 26, 2011, 02:41:05 AM
The easiest Nocturne is probably the one in F minor op 55 no2.
I actually think you mean op. 55 no. (1), but anyway, I'd have to disagree. I think there are quite a few nocturnes that are easier than op. 55 no. 1 (c minor posthumous, op. 15 no. 3, op. 9 no. 2 and a few others). Then again, it depends on the pianist, as some nocturnes may be harder for some people and simpler for others.

I was wondering what the relative difficluty of the waltzes was compared to his other works such as the noctunres. Im particlularly interested in the Grande Valses Op 18,34 and 42.

Thanks.
I think most of the waltzes are easier than the nocturnes, polonaises, scherzos etc., except for some of the ones pianoplayjl mentioned. I do believe that the preludes are easier than the waltzes, except for maybe a few.

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Re: The Chopin Valses
Reply #3 on: December 26, 2011, 09:40:56 AM
Actually I think the op9no2 nocturne is of 8th grade standard partly because of the trills which I never get. To my knowledge there is no nocturne in c minor, I think you mean nocturne in C sharp minor. That is definitely harder than op9no2. IMO the op55no1 has to be the easiest nocturne. It's not that hard anyway.

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Re: The Chopin Valses
Reply #4 on: December 26, 2011, 03:45:45 PM
There are 2 nocturnes by chopin in c minor.
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Beethoven sonata no. 1 op. 2
Bach Prelude and Fugue in g-major, WTCII
Schumann fantasie stucke op.12 (no. 1,2)

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Re: The Chopin Valses
Reply #5 on: December 26, 2011, 06:06:18 PM
To my knowledge there is no nocturne in c minor, I think you mean nocturne in C sharp minor.
This is the one I was talking about.
https://www.pianostreet.com/chopin-sheet-music/nocturnes/nocturne-opus-posth-c-minor.htm

It's not very commonly played compared to the others, so you may not have heard it before. Anyways, I was just saying, this one is a little easier than the f minor nocturne.

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Re: The Chopin Valses
Reply #6 on: December 26, 2011, 08:42:47 PM
The preludes are generally alot than the waltzes. They are like etudes but often shorter and perhaps not as demanding. Ofc there are easy ones aswell.
Repertoire.
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Brahms op 118
Chopin Preludes op 28
Grieg Holberg Suite
Mendelssohn Piano trio D minor op 49
Rachmaninoff Etude Tabelaux op 33 no 3 & 4 op 39 no 2
Scriabin Preludes op 1

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Re: The Chopin Valses
Reply #7 on: December 26, 2011, 11:29:20 PM
This is the one I was talking about.
https://www.pianostreet.com/chopin-sheet-music/nocturnes/nocturne-opus-posth-c-minor.htm

It's not very commonly played compared to the others, so you may not have heard it before. Anyways, I was just saying, this one is a little easier than the f minor nocturne.



Ah yes I've heard of that one. I thought it had an opus number. now that I've looked at it, it is just about the easiest nocturne by Chopin. The easier preludes also include no 4,6,7,13,15,20. In Australia here for Licentiate list c you can do any 5 consecutive Chopin preludes.
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