Need dig. piano! Have some models too choose from, and other questions regarding

[bamsee]

Hello!

So I need a digital piano. I will almost 90 %  of the time use it for practice with headphones!
And if the speakers on the piano is bad, and I maybe move to a place where I don't need headphones I can use external system I was thinking

But what I'm really looking for is that the tangents are so close to real piano as possible! They should weigh! I don't want keyboard weights... It would be awesome if the sound was good too! But, I'm no millionaire, so I have to choose from these:

Roland RP-201RW
Roland F-110
Roland HP-302

Yamaha CLP 330 RW
Yamaha CLP 320 PE
Yamaha CLP 340 RW
Yamaha CLP 340 PE
Yamaha Arius YDP-V240
Yamaha Clavinova CLP-430

Casio AP-620
Casio PX-830

Kawai CN 33 RW
Kawai CN 33

Yes, and it has to have 88 tangents. I hope all those have that :p.
But bear in mind that I actually are going to use headphones...
But it would very nice that it sounded good without it too!
Simply... what digital piano above will feel more like a real piano?

I have some other questions too...
Like... how hard can I actually hit a tangent on a piano like this? Will it just break of nothing? Home, on the acustic I will probably break my finger before the string or something else in there does... they really can take serious beating! I just wonder how I have to limit myself.

Something very intriging about digital I have to say is: pure sound! No false sound anymore. Which can seriously affect my playing and motivation!!!

Many thanks for guidelines and information sharing!
Thank you!

[chauncey]

My personal favourite is the Yamaha Clavinova. Playing on one of these keyboards is close to playing on a real piano. The CLP's themselves look very similar to spinets as well. For sound wise using a headset, I would give the CLP's an A+ . Very clear sounds given.  The sound is pretty pure as well! Also, you would need a headphone jack for the Clavinova. Referring to its tangent (I think your talking about touch response or key weight?), it doesn't take a whole lot to produce a sound. Full pp to ff dynamic range is built in this keyboard. As for breaking, just be really careful with the stand it comes attached with, those are known to break off. 

But don't just take my word for it, you should try to test one out if you can. Also, there could be better keyboards out there. This is just my favourite. But I would REALLY recommend it.

[jimbo320]

The only one on your list which I have played on is the Yamaha CLP-340. When asked for a suggested instrument I only suggest ones that I know from personal experience. If you go for the CLP-340 I believe you'll be well pleased...

[bamsee]

The only one on your list which I have played on is the Yamaha CLP-340. When asked for a suggested instrument I only suggest ones that I know from personal experience. If you go for the CLP-340 I believe you'll be well pleased...

Do you know what the difference between RW and PE is on that model?

And to everyone:
Basically when I'm looking for digital pianos and my price range... what should I actually look for? What definitions should the digital piano have? With definition I mean like: it has to x and y etc... x and y being something... something a digital piano should have

I live to far away to test the pianos, I just have to order it and get it by mail.

[pianoplayjl]

Any Yamaha clavinova would be ideal. Based on theonly one you mentioned (clp-430), I really recommend you just buy that. Search the archives to find mroe advice on which dig. pianos to buy. THey are really helpful.

JL

[doreen]

Hi pianoplay,
I have the Kawai MP8 2 I think it's as good as it gets for a digital. The feel is excellent, The sound with good headphones is good, it is touch very sensitive,  it has midi which is good for notation software and recording. I use multitrack studio. I miss my acoustic grand but had to downsize to an apt.
It is pricey about 2 thousand dollars. It weighs 75lbs. and you need a good set of studio monitors for it to sound ok without headphones.  I really hate digital pianos and I find this option acceptable as I can practice late into the night and not bother anybody.

[ionian_tinnear]

I use a Yamaha S-90.  All the Yamahas I've tried are good.  I prefer the S-90 over the Clavinovas because I do a lot of performing for musical theatre, and the S-90 is easy to move around.  Of course I then have use external speakers, but in a live performance, would a keyboard with built-in speakers be loud enough?

[lhorwinkle]

Do you know what the difference between RW and PE is on that model?

RW is the rosewood finish. PE is polished ebony. The latter is a good deal more expensive, but it looks much better.

Basically when I'm looking for digital pianos and my price range... what should I actually look for? What definitions should the digital piano have? With definition I mean like: it has to x and y etc... x and y being something... something a digital piano should have

Do you have experience playing piano? If so, judge a digital piano the way you would an acoustic. Judge the key feel, its responsiveness, etc. And just the sound.

I live too far away to test the pianos, I just have to order it and get it by mail.

I think this is a big mistake. I could absolutely never buy any piano that I had not first tried out extensively. No try, no buy.