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How technically hard are the three movements of Petrushka and all six of the Rachmaninoff moment musicals

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Voting closed: January 12, 2012, 04:40:23 AM

Topic: This isn't what it looks like!  (Read 2299 times)

Offline rachmaninoff_forever

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This isn't what it looks like!
on: January 05, 2012, 04:40:23 AM
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Offline philb

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Re: Stravinsky and Rachmaninoff
Reply #1 on: January 05, 2012, 05:48:28 AM
Couldn't compare any of those pieces in reality, the techniques required are totally different. Also difficulty is subjective. One person actually might find feux follets very easy for them, but find a piece like op. 16 no. 2 really difficult.

Just take a look at the pieces and see what you find difficult.

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Re: Stravinsky and Rachmaninoff
Reply #2 on: January 05, 2012, 01:16:40 PM
If they are played as a set I think them both are just as hard. Any movement from the pretrushka is equivalent to Lmus standard in Australia. If played individually movement/piece-wise I think Petrushka is more difficult. If the whole set of Petrushka/moments musicals  are played then I think they are both harder than La campanella but not feux Follets. But then again, obviously the difficulty of the piece does depend on the pianist. Technically petrushka is harder than la campanella not musically.

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Re: Stravinsky and Rachmaninoff
Reply #3 on: January 06, 2012, 09:34:28 AM
Difficulty is subjective.  Chopin Nocturnes could be as hard as Xenakis for some people.  Just look at the music, or listen to it, because I'm sure you haven't done that already.  Mozart is the hardest composer, because there are so few notes in it, especially for pianists who think Feux Follets is easy (excuse me: "very easy").

Hope that answered your question.


Just kidding.  Aren't these guys really helpful?  Petrouchka is notably more difficult than the Rach Op. 16.  Lots of tremelos in the fingers, locked wrists, massive leaps, awkward 9th chord progressions played fast and parallel, extremely fast arpeggios across several registers, extended trills/scales in thirds.  It's on Hamelin's shortlist of pieces that he says he'll never play because it's so unpianistic; whose opinion do you want?  Guys posting above me, or Hamelin's?  Rubinstein commissioned it, then refused to play it because it was too hard; required an easier version to be made up.  It's top 10 hardest, as far as standard solo repertoire goes.


Although honestly, it's kind of obvious which one is more difficult.  Not sure why you didn't just sit down at the piano and try it out; wouldn't take long.

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Re: Stravinsky and Rachmaninoff
Reply #4 on: November 05, 2012, 02:01:01 AM
compare them to La Campanella

Difficulties are subjective.  ;D But in general Petrushka is a lot harder.
Bach Prelude and Fugue BWV848
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.13
Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Chopin Scherzo Op.31
Mussorgsky "The Great Gate of Kiev" from Pictures at an Exhibition

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Re: Stravinsky and Rachmaninoff
Reply #5 on: November 05, 2012, 02:06:14 AM
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Difficulties are subjective.   But in general Petrushka is a lot harder.
STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Why do you people keep bringing up my old posts what the heck?!!?!?!??!!
Stop trying to freaking embarrass me!!!

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Re: This isn't what it looks like!
Reply #6 on: November 05, 2012, 02:10:44 AM
Sorry.  ::)
Bach Prelude and Fugue BWV848
Beethoven Piano Sonata Op.13
Chopin Etude Op.10 No.4
Chopin Scherzo Op.31
Mussorgsky "The Great Gate of Kiev" from Pictures at an Exhibition

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Re: Stravinsky and Rachmaninoff
Reply #7 on: November 05, 2012, 04:28:28 AM

Why do you people keep bringing up my old posts what the heck?!!?!?!??!!

Archeology ;D

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Re: Stravinsky and Rachmaninoff
Reply #8 on: November 05, 2012, 04:32:36 AM
Live large, die large.  Leave a giant coffin.

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Re: This isn't what it looks like!
Reply #9 on: November 05, 2012, 04:55:02 PM
you people??? what do you mean you people?  8)
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