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Topic: If you really know your Chopin, a little help identifying a piano work  (Read 3076 times)

Offline 49410enrique

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I am ahead of schedule on my first Chopin fusion project (He's a pirate is now in the clean up phase and is just about all memorized with basics done before my first lesson on it in a few weeks)this is from mmy Japanese album of Disney/Chopin works. As such I am looking forward to starting my next one soon, I am pretty good (most of the time) at figuring out which chopin work is the basis for each arrangement but I cannot for the life of me identify the piece that was used for this possible next solo work (looking for a contrasting piece and this is very 'nocturnish'). Sometimes the Japanese performance notes in my book have an op number but nothing for this one.

I have created a video of it so i can post it here in hopes someone can listen to it and help me out.  with all the copyright fallout I from last week (i.e. the feds raiding and shutting down megaupload, megavideo, etc. sopa, pipa, etc, and many similar sites all quickly taking all content down, i cannot post an mp3 for fear of it affecting the pianostreet boards).

once i get an answer I'll have to remove the video (which is private) because youtube likes to suspend accounts first and ask questions later for copyrighted material, especially with large companies with deep pockets that aggressivly pursue all copyright infringements. i.e Disney related media.

Thanks for you help, the Disney piece  is "When you wish a upon a star" and is the title track for my CD and for the name of the book. The video contains an image of the front and inside covers of the album.

Offline gn622

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if ill have to guess, i think it has some elements seen in nocturne op.32 no. 1

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if ill have to guess, i think it has some elements seen in nocturne op.32 no. 1
thanks for giving me some direction i'll pull the score and recording, i try to familiarize myself with the chopin template first, then an unadorned disney version before i get cracking on the stylized work.

to anyone else if they can confirm the above that would be great. i need to double check to see if all the works are in the same key as the origianl chopin if so i think that'll provide some additional guidance and i'll see if i can post a scan of the first page (i'm in the process of digitally backing up these books in case the unthinkable were to ever occour and something happened to my scores as this is incredibly difficult to find even in japan, i doubt i could easily replace it).

thanks again i'll check back in asap and hopefully put a scan up if needed.

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But im really not certain you know, the piece you posted does seem different than the chopin nocturnes but the one that somehow resembles it in my opinion, is the op.32 no. 1 

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But im really not certain you know, the piece you posted does seem different than the chopin nocturnes but the one that somehow resembles it in my opinion, is the op.32 no. 1 
thanks for letting me know, in that case it'll prob take more time and research on my end, all the other arrangements have parts lifted straight out of the chopin based piece, that is there are carbon copy direct musical quotes, so i thought you recognized specific passages, that's really what i'm looking for, if someone knows the chopin reptetoire really well and hears this 'quote'.  hopefully someone else can weigh in, i'll be doing more score search too.

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never mind, i think i figured it out, it was the written key signature (starts in e flat major and marked larghetto in 6/4 time), the way it is written and with the modulation later, about 90% sure it's based on some slow sections of the 1st ballade at the meno mosso sotto voce where we pick up an a flat (which i'm working on as one of my solos  and a side by side score study shows very similar writing, though i think this one doesn't quite quote exactly but texture wise it is spot on. since i eliminated nocturne based pieces after a complete set review, this seems the most likely).

thanks again for viewing and trying to help.

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