Pianist with fastest trills?

[sevencircles]

I read an interview where Hamelin was talking about Ciccoliniīs trills. I have never heard any recording by Ciccolini where he plays as fast as Hamelin was talking about.

Trills is something that has a lot to do with reflexes. I tried to get my lefthand trills up to speed but itīs impossible.

What pianist has got the fastest and best trills you have heard?

[j_menz]

Fastest is not always best, especially in baroque and classical pieces.  The ability to control the trill, and relate it to other features of the piece is more important.

I always liked Glen Gould's trills, and Vladimir Ashkenazy's.

[sevencircles]

Fastest is not always best, especially in baroque and classical pieces.  The ability to control the trill, and relate it to other features of the piece is more important.

I agree about that, but hyperspeed trills can really affective sometimes. Especially if you accelerate up to speed.

[omar_roy]

It's not just speed, it's evenness (both in length of each note, and dynamic).  A good sustained trill is very difficult.  According to one of my scores that has a bit of background on Chopin, he preferred his students to trill slower, if needed, but remain absolutely even.

Like a previous poster said, though, trilling extremely rapidly isn't always good.  In some instances, a simple 2 or 3 trills are enough to decorate the music.

[sevencircles]

It's not just speed, it's evenness (both in length of each note, and dynamic).  A good sustained trill is very difficult.  According to one of my scores that has a bit of background on Chopin, he preferred his students to trill slower, if needed, but remain absolutely even.

Like a previous poster said, though, trilling extremely rapidly isn't always good.  In some instances, a simple 2 or 3 trills are enough to decorate the music.

Maybe iīm so impressed by fast trill since I know that I would never be able to them myself. I havenīt got the reflexes for it 

[pianoplayjl]

If we can measure speed with metres per second, surely we can measure trills with notes per second. 

Maybe iīm so impressed by fast trill since I know that I would never be able to them myself. I havenīt got the reflexes for it 

Don't worry, I am in the same boat. In fact I am only learning how to trill properly, right now. I never know if I have a proper technique for trills. As for the pianist with the fastest trills, I think Arcadi Volodos mgiht be one of the possible guys. I am only basing this upon the video I watch of him playing Stars and stripes forever. However it is only 1 video and I need to watch more videos to see whether his trills are faster than the others. To me, trills are impossible to measure against other pianists. It also depends on the piano, pianist, piece, etc, IMO. Trills are meant to be fast, anyway; they are rapidly alternating notes. But still, unless I can find another pianist who can convince me that their trills are faster, Volodos gets my vote for fastest triller.

JL

[newto43]

Hi, the fastest trills I have heard are done by someone who is not acclaimed as yet, but is very well recognised in many places in Australia. Have a listen to/look at this (amateur clip) and let me know what you think!!

 

and here is another clip - a track from his CD...

Thank you.

[speedcuber]

in this video are many examples of trills. (and there is a recording of ciccolini at 5:17)
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltx6xNX0rBo

[pts1]

Good trills are the perfect coordination of finger, wrist and full arm movement.

One must engage just the right balance of these elements (the wrist's primary role is to remain very supple) the finger is the "prime mover" and the upper arm assists and regulates the trill speed like a "small interval tremolo."

In fact, if you use the same motions as with the tremolo, starting with an octave, say, then note by note reduce the interval down to a whole and then half step, keeping the "free" upper arm movement with "on the key" small finger movement, this is the basic idea.

From there its practice. But these basic movements must be there or one will never get it.