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Offline kylash

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Hey everyone, 

I'm trying to find a Cadenza for the third movement of Mozart's Concerto 20 in D Minor.  I found one that I really like but I can't tell if it's the soloists original composition or who it was actually composed by. 

Your help is greatly appreciated. 

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Thanks!

Offline birba

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Re: Help identifying this Cadenza for Mozart Concerto 20 K466?
Reply #1 on: March 25, 2012, 08:03:09 PM
I'm pretty sure that's Beetoven's cadenza for this concerto.

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Re: Help identifying this Cadenza for Mozart Concerto 20 K466?
Reply #2 on: March 26, 2012, 12:04:31 AM
I'm pretty sure that's Beetoven's cadenza for this concerto.

Nope... definitely not Beethovens cadenza. I've heard his cadenza for this concerto before...

This is a new one for me.

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Re: Help identifying this Cadenza for Mozart Concerto 20 K466?
Reply #3 on: March 26, 2012, 06:27:54 AM
You're right.    :P

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Re: Help identifying this Cadenza for Mozart Concerto 20 K466?
Reply #4 on: March 26, 2012, 12:17:20 PM
For sure I can tell you it isn't Beethoven, Brahms, Muller, Rhigetti's, Schumanns or Tagliapietra's.

Although, what I can say is I personally think it sucks. It almost contains none of the original material from Mozart, which most Cadenza's usually make use of and vary, and it sounds like two centuries too late to be played for a Mozart Concerto.

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Re: Help identifying this Cadenza for Mozart Concerto 20 K466?
Reply #5 on: March 26, 2012, 07:32:00 PM
To sound like as much of an ass as possible, this is a really poorly written cadenza. I'd say the same thing if Beethoven wrote it. And, because you should listen to a stranger's opinion, you shouldn't play it.

To reiterate what perfect_pitch wrote, there's very little material from what Mozart had written, typically one would expand upon original material in a virtuosic way, and it ends so awkwardly. How is it that the composition's original material is more virtuosic than the cadenza?

I'd suggest either Hummel or Beethoven.
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