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Offline rachmaninoff_forever

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Water repertoire?
on: March 31, 2012, 11:44:55 PM
What pieces do you know sound like or have to do with water?

So far the only ones I can think of are Jeux d'eau, Ondine, the boat on the ocean in Ravel mirrors, and the raindrop prelude by Chopin.  But I don't think the raindrop prelude really sounds like water.

Oh and also, what's harder?  Jeux d'eau, or Ondine?
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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #1 on: April 01, 2012, 10:32:37 AM
Debussy - La cathedrale engloutie
Debussy - Jardins sous la pluie
Debussy - Reflets dans l'eau
Debussy - Poissons d'or
Debussy - Ondine
Liszt - Les jeux d'eau a la Villa d'Este

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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #2 on: April 01, 2012, 11:12:51 AM
Debussy - La cathedrale engloutie
Debussy - Jardins sous la pluie
Debussy - Reflets dans l'eau
Debussy - Poissons d'or
Debussy - Ondine
Liszt - Les jeux d'eau a la Villa d'Este


Debussy - La cathedrale engloutie
Debussy - Jardins sous la pluie
Debussy - Reflets dans l'eau
Debussy - Poissons d'or
Debussy - Ondine
Liszt - Les jeux d'eau a la Villa d'Este


Debussy also has La Mer.

As pretty much the father of impressionism, Liszt has quite a few. The Les jeux d'eau is perhaps his finest example, but he has a few others. Some of the fairly well known ones (to differing extents) are Au lac de Wallenstadt.


 
Au bord d'une source.



Gondoliera.



St. François de Paule marchant sur les flots (which is depicting more stormy, unruly waters - as well as more programmatic things).



Then two that aren't as well known, like Am Rhein, im schönen Strome.



Christus - The Miracle. (When Jesus calms the waves. The water being depicted, again, is of the more stormy variety. Of course, he depicts much more than just water in this marvelous scene). (24:34 - 33:30 in the video).



He also wrote many other pieces that have 'watery' passages in them.

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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #3 on: April 01, 2012, 01:21:16 PM
How about Chopin op 25 no. 12? It depicts the ocean, right?
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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #4 on: April 01, 2012, 03:59:20 PM
redbaron took all of mine..
I've heard the Op. 10/1 be referred to as Waterfall, but I disagree since it goes up just as much as it goes down.


As for Ondine vs. Jeux D'eau, Ondine is significantly harder to sightread and play and play well.
Ravel Jeux D'eau
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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #5 on: April 01, 2012, 05:34:17 PM
Ravel, Debussy and Liszt… They almost “conquered” this topic.  Just some additional pieces quickly came to my mind.

Handel’s Water Music Suites arranged for solo piano (Free score: https://erato.uvt.nl/files/imglnks/usimg/1/16/IMSLP104313-PMLP11283-Watermusic-Handel-Pittman.pdf)

Barcarolle falls into your category?  If so, then there are plenty.  Chopin’s is one of my favourite barcarolles.

Here, please also allow me to introduce two lovely Chinese folk tunes (arranged for solo piano):

Autumn Moon over the Calm Lake (Free score: https://www.gangqinpu.com/html/12077.htm)
(Free video clip:
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The Second Spring Bathed in Moonlight (Free score: https://www.gangqinpu.com/html/10028.htm)
(Free video clip: https://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMjg4OTgwNTky.html) – sorry, the quality isn’t very nice

Hope you enjoy.

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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #6 on: April 01, 2012, 05:59:42 PM
How about Chopin op 25 no. 12? It depicts the ocean, right?

Chopin wasn't the one who named his Etudes, and I don't think he was enthusiastic at ALL about it happening.

That being said, it could certainly be about an ocean. A shark infested one, of course.

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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #7 on: April 02, 2012, 12:24:56 PM
coincidentally i was just listening to this in the background when i read this, shocker.... FFXIII PC theme, the second theme is the main water music but it's all pretty related and ties together nicely
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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #8 on: April 02, 2012, 09:22:04 PM
How about Chopin op 25 no. 12? It depicts the ocean, right?

I guess it's supposed to?  The score actually looks like ocean waves.  But it doesn't really sound like water as much as Debussy and Ravel. 

The Chopin Etude sounds like a piano.  Debussy and Ravel sounds like water.
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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #9 on: April 03, 2012, 03:00:48 AM
I guess it's supposed to?  The score actually looks like ocean waves.  But it doesn't really sound like water as much as Debussy and Ravel. 

The Chopin Etude sounds like a piano.  Debussy and Ravel sounds like water.

It isn't supposed to (well, it might be). As I said, Chopin was NOT the one who wrote the subtitles, others did - and Chopin hated it when they did. I agree it doesn't really sound like an ocean (unless, as I also suggested, it's a very dark time on the ocean), but maybe it's so-called because of the score, as you mentioned. I don't know.

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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #10 on: April 03, 2012, 01:01:56 PM
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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #11 on: April 07, 2012, 09:42:59 PM
Comparing Ondine with Jeux d'eau, I would definitely say that Ondine is more difficult.  The right hand passages are KILLERS.

There are actually two pieces I'm working on that makes me think of water.  First of all, Debussy's Garden in the Rain from Estampes.  It sounds like a storm with rains pouring down.

Another piece is Liszt's concert etude Un Sospiro, which means a sigh.  However, it's also got another nickname: the Ocean.  The accompaniment arpeggios depicts the ocean waves perfectly.

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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #12 on: April 08, 2012, 11:18:18 PM
Ravel and Debussy take the cake when it comes to "water repertoire"

Ravel: Jeux d'eau
Ravel: Ondine
Ravel: Un barque sur l'ocean
Debussy: La Mer
Debussy: Reflects dans l'eau
Debussy: La Cathedral Engloutie
Debussy: Ondine
Debussy: Broulliards (technically about mist, but mist is made of water, so...)
Debussy: Poissons d'or (goldfish, but you can hear the watery sounds in this piece)

There are also some Liszt pieces, like  Les jeux d'eau en la ville d'este (which Ravel's Jeux d'eau is based on) and Au bord d'une source.

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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #13 on: April 13, 2012, 01:34:22 AM
and here's something different:

it reminds me of a sparkling river in the late afternoon sun.
however it is written for 3 pianos...

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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #14 on: April 13, 2012, 03:22:00 AM
Hey speedcuber, do you actually speed cube, and if so, what's your average and fastest for a 3x3x3?

Sorry that was a little off topic but I couldn't resist asking.
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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #15 on: April 14, 2012, 01:32:19 AM
i stopped practising seriously a year ago but i still go to competitions.
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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #16 on: April 14, 2012, 02:25:53 PM
Szymanowski has two in his Metopes, L'ile des Sirenes and Calypso.

Takemitsu's Rain Tree Sketches.

Sciarrino's Perduta in una citta d'acqua.

I'm trying to go off the beaten track here.

Otherwise,

Ravel's Lever du jour from Daphnis et Chloe. The opening line in the score is "No sound but the murmur of brooklets gathered by the dew that flows from the rocks". I think the accompanying figurations all the way through are evocative of this.

Debussy's Ce qu'a vu le vent d'ouest is about a storm at sea.

They're not about water, but I always think Impressionistic water music owes a lot to Liszt's Feux Follets and Chasse-neige (as well as Les jeux d'eau which has already been mentioned).

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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #17 on: April 14, 2012, 02:42:39 PM
Debussy and Ravel are the main composers whose theme is water with pieces such as Jeux d'eau, Ondine, Une Barque sur l'Ocean, Relfets dans l'eau. Jardins sous la Pluie and Debussy's Ondine also represent water.Les jeux d'eau á la villa d'Este Liszt is also very good in this aquatic aspect.The Fountains of the Paola Acqua by Charles Griffes are good representations of water.
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Re: Water repertoire?
Reply #18 on: April 16, 2012, 07:43:00 PM
quite nice.

Griffes - The Fountains of the Acqua Paola


"...Quote by Michael Lewin: "The four pieces comprising the Roman Sketches, Op. 7 take the composer into an even more personal sound-world... 'The Fountains of the Acqua Paola' is harmonically the most conservative of the four, with glittering technical brilliance. It is an attractive water piece in the tradition of Ravel's 'Jeux d'eau' and Liszt's 'Les jeux d'eaux a la Villa d'Este'. Featuring a beautiful left-hand melody decorated by right-hand arpeggios and double notes, the music successfully captures the shimmer and spray of foam and fountains...."

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Re: Water repertoire?
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Re: Water repertoire?
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