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Offline Lost

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darkish/lugubre pieces
on: September 25, 2004, 02:22:54 AM
i was wondering if you have any suggestions for dark/lugubre pieces

preferably for solo piano, but i don't mind if it's not for piano as i need more pieces to listen to anyways :)

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #1 on: September 25, 2004, 02:30:25 AM
Well, you could try some late Scriabin Sonatas.

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #2 on: September 25, 2004, 04:03:09 PM
Some of the late Brahms piano pieces (Op 116, 117, 118, 119 for ex.) are dark, although not really "lugubrious."  Some are torrents of emotion, some are quieter, but all are wonderful!

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #3 on: September 25, 2004, 04:07:14 PM
Liszt's funérailles, Ravel : scarbo ... (frightening)
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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #4 on: September 25, 2004, 08:43:37 PM
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i was wondering if you have any suggestions for dark/lugubre pieces

preferably for solo piano, but i don't mind if it's not for piano as i need more pieces to listen to anyways :)


 The Gondola pieces that Liszt wrote upon the death of Richard Wagner.

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #5 on: September 25, 2004, 11:35:53 PM
the third movment of kullak piano concerto
listen to it once and you'll be hocked

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #6 on: September 27, 2004, 09:28:25 AM
I remember the indication 'lugubre' as a tempo marking for some piece I heard in the past year... alas, I can't remember what. It could be one of the French impressionists' piano quintets? Or maybe a Prokofiev or Shostakovich chamber music thing? That could be it.

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Offline Terry-Piano

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #7 on: September 30, 2004, 08:04:40 AM
Liszt la lugubre gondola no1and2...cant be more lugubre than that :P


Chopin Etude op10 no.6 is ^lugubre^ as well
Scarbo...definitly frightening :P

The beginning of liszt piano concerto2..theme is so eerie
many many other pieces..but they dont come to mind..ill be back on this:P

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #8 on: October 03, 2004, 12:56:34 AM
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the third movment of kullak piano concerto
listen to it once and you'll be hocked


if you meant op 55(in C minor), it's nowhere near lugubre but thanks for suggesting it anyways, i love it :)

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #9 on: October 03, 2004, 06:14:51 AM
I would say Berlioz - Symphony Fantastique - the great variation in mood from the cheery ball room to the solemn march to the Scaffold and Witch Sabboth is dramatic, to say the least.
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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #10 on: October 03, 2004, 11:37:26 AM
Many of Frank Bridge's piano pieces have a sinister, numinous aspect; it appears to have come naturally to him. Try his "Gargoyle", "The Midnight Tide", "Through the Eaves",  "Retrospect", "Bittersweet", "Hidden Fires", "Dusk". Although he hardly figures in musical discussions these days except to be mentioned in passing as Benjamin Britten's teacher, I find his piano language among the most original and expressive I have ever heard. This is possibly because, like that of Ireland and Delius, his music is never contrived to flaunt modern devices. He uses bitonality, atonality, arhythmic passages, the lot - but they always come out like Bridge and nobody else.

My three CD set of his works on Continuum by Peter Jacobs gets a hearing at least every week - there's much to think about.
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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #11 on: October 03, 2004, 03:32:42 PM
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Many of Frank Bridge's piano pieces have a sinister, numinous aspect; it appears to have come naturally to him. Try his "Gargoyle", "The Midnight Tide", "Through the Eaves",  "Retrospect", "Bittersweet", "Hidden Fires", "Dusk". Although he hardly figures in musical discussions these days except to be mentioned in passing as Benjamin Britten's teacher, I find his piano language among the most original and expressive I have ever heard. This is possibly because, like that of Ireland and Delius, his music is never contrived to flaunt modern devices. He uses bitonality, atonality, arhythmic passages, the lot - but they always come out like Bridge and nobody else.

My three CD set of his works on Continuum by Peter Jacobs gets a hearing at least every week - there's much to think about.


 Nice to see another Bridge fan!  One of these days I'll tackle the sonata--a helluva piece.

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #12 on: October 03, 2004, 04:40:11 PM
Alexandrov op 1 third piece
All music by Jill Tracy actually (pianoplayer singer/songwriter)

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #13 on: October 06, 2004, 10:07:44 AM
Thracozaag:

It's a hell of a piece and no mistake ! I cannot understand it as yet, but each listening brings new vistas of enjoyment. By all accounts he had a hell of a struggle writing it too. He was obviously a more natural master of the short form. Bridge writing a sonata must have been a bit like Maupassant writing a big novel. Playing it is out of the question for me, at least for the present. Goes to show what a titanic pianist Myra Hess was, learning and playing it for the first time.

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #14 on: October 11, 2004, 06:49:03 AM
Ravel: Le Gibet
Scriabin: in general there is a lot of darkness in his music, not just in his late sonatas.

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #15 on: October 11, 2004, 09:08:59 PM
Prokofiev's Sugestion Diabolique is the creepiest piece i have ever heard!

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Re: darkish/lugubre pieces
Reply #16 on: October 12, 2004, 04:01:55 AM
La Danse Macabre by Saint-Saens is really dark and creepy. Horowitz I know recorded Liszt's arrangement for piano. I'm not a big fan of Horowitz, but I haven't found any other recordings yet (and I like his well enough)

Rachmaninov's Prelude in Gm Op.23, No.5 is very cool and kind of dark. Horowitz's recording is quite good, but I prefer the other recording I have by Helfgott

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