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Offline squarevince

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hanon etudes, easiest to hardest
on: April 10, 2012, 02:41:14 PM
wow, hanon is so tough on my hands.  i mean, I really really want to be able to play #60 but it seems so hard, harder than fantasie impromptu, which i also really want to play, but i think i can do it, even though my teacher says i'm not ready and i need to practice more than one hour a week before i can get ready for it.  can someone please give me some advice?!?!?
toying with:  Schubert Op 90 & 142, Chopin Op 25 #11
focusing on:  Bach Partita 4, Hough/Hammerstein "My Favorite Things", Chopin Op 10 #1
aspiring to: Bartok Sonata

Offline j_menz

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Re: hanon etudes, easiest to hardest
Reply #1 on: April 12, 2012, 06:44:44 AM
, I really really want to be able to play ...[hanon]  can someone please give me some advice?!?!?

Seek psychotherapy. Do it now. Stay away from sharp things until you do!  ;D

[seriously, though, I'm sure practice will get you there]

"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant

Offline thalbergmad

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Re: hanon etudes, easiest to hardest
Reply #2 on: April 12, 2012, 07:34:17 AM
Incredible ;D ;D ;D

This is almost a "what exercises do I need to help me play hanon?" thread.

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Offline ajspiano

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Re: hanon etudes, easiest to hardest
Reply #3 on: April 12, 2012, 07:48:28 AM
Attach weights to your fingers while you play for a minimum 2 hours per day.

Offline pytheamateur

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Re: hanon etudes, easiest to hardest
Reply #4 on: April 12, 2012, 09:45:31 AM
Yes, I think you need to increase your practice time.  If you are playing pieces like the Fantasie Impromptu, you'll need to be practising at least one hour a day.
Beethoven - Sonata in C sharp minor, Op 27 No 12
Chopin - Fantasie Impromptu, Nocturn in C sharp minor, Op post
Brahms - Op 118, Nos 2 & 3

Offline squarevince

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Re: hanon etudes, easiest to hardest
Reply #5 on: April 12, 2012, 02:35:26 PM
incredible... it seems the humor was lost on all. I guess I'm being too mavericky.  :p

edit:  sorry, forgot about the non-Americans (and perhaps those too young 4 years ago) a lesson on how to be mavericky:
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toying with:  Schubert Op 90 & 142, Chopin Op 25 #11
focusing on:  Bach Partita 4, Hough/Hammerstein "My Favorite Things", Chopin Op 10 #1
aspiring to: Bartok Sonata

Offline ajspiano

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Re: hanon etudes, easiest to hardest
Reply #6 on: April 13, 2012, 01:05:18 AM
It was not lost on me - do you think I was serious about finger weights?

Offline 49410enrique

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Re: hanon etudes, easiest to hardest
Reply #7 on: April 13, 2012, 01:12:48 AM
It was not lost on me - do you think I was serious about finger weights?
awe krap just got back from the finger weight emporium! these are non returnable! now you tell me >:(

Offline iratior

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Re: hanon etudes, easiest to hardest
Reply #8 on: April 15, 2012, 11:15:14 AM
To research the question of how rank the Hanon etudes from easiest to hardest, a statistical anaysis could be done.  We would gather data by interviewing thousdands and thousands of pianists, to get their individualized opinion as to how the etudes, or some of them, should be ranked.  We would emphasize that we were not seeking to deny anyone their right to their own personal opinions as to what the order of difficulty was.  This seems to have been misunderstood in the topic of ranking the Chopin etudes.  Some people may have misunderstood what I had done, and was seeking to present my personal opinion as being what they should have.  Nothing could have been further from the truth;  I respect the right of every pianist to their opinions about what piece is more difficult than what other.  Anyhow, once we got all the data, we would try to estimate, on the theory that every personalized ranking is the true ranking, to which a random permutation has been applied, what an ordering that reflected all the pianists' opinions would be.  We would have to decide how to handle it, when someone ranked only some but not all of the etudes, or felt that two or more pieces were equally difficult.  We would have to make assumptions about the probability distribution of the permutations.  Ideally, we would come up with a statistical estimate of what the rankings are.  But this would be only an estimate;  the true ranks would be regarded as unknown.
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