Sonata and Concerto Works with Theme and Variations movements

[49410enrique]

no real reason for wanting to know more repertoire that fits the above criteria other than i'm sure it can be useful knowledge someday and perhaps for folks to happen upon the thread in the futre. So yeah I'm wondering if we can put our collective thinking caps together on this and simply get a working list.

The requirements are not many really, just that it be a Sonata or Concerto (a 'true concerto' so i think things like symphonic variations for piano and orch. or a rhapsody on a certain theme and such probably should be excluded from the list).

So far just from my working knowlege
Prokofiev Piano Concerto No 3, the second is a theme and variations
Beethoven Piano Sonata no 12 Op 26, the first movement is a theme and variations
Beethoven Piano Sonata no 32 Op 111, the third movement is a theme and variations
Mozart Piano Sonata No 11 K331 the famous A major, first movement is theme and variations.

thanks for anyone that can help, i just like these things and hope I can learn about some works previously unfamilar to me.

[j_menz]

Couple of others come to mind:

Shostakovich 2nd Piano Sonate, 3rd Movement.

Haydn C major Sonata XVI/48 (double variation set)

Mozart D major K284

Rasson Bet-Yonan Piano Sonata "Theme and Variations in Fouyr Movements"

And if Sonatinas count, Theodore Latour Sonatina No2 in Gmajor, 3rd movement

[49410enrique]

@ j_menz , way cool

we should probably open it up to small chamber works with similar form,

Schubert Piano Quintet in A D667, 4th movement

[jy_]

2nd mvt of the appasionata sonata as well

[49410enrique]

perhaps i should have asked which chopin etude is harder....thanks to those that contributed nonetheless. hopefully this will get some more hits and we can grow the list a bit more.

[j_menz]

perhaps i should have asked which chopin etude is harder....

Please... NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think there are a number of Violin and Cello sonatas which contain variation movements, but it's not a repertoire I'm very familiar with.

[49410enrique]

Please... NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I think there are a number of Violin and Cello sonatas which contain variation movements, but it's not a repertoire I'm very familiar with.

no worries i'm sure someone will help it along, if not we can just start more chopin arguments.

[pytheamateur]

no worries i'm sure someone will help it along, if not we can just start more chopin arguments.

Rachmaninov's Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganinni.
Franck's Symphonic Variations.

[mozartk365]

The final movements of Beethoven sonata Op.109 and Op.111

[iratior]

Well if you're allowing piano-and-violin sonatas as well as just piano, there's Beethoven's Kreutzer Sonata and the one in D major.

[49410enrique]

this was a new discovery for me. so far really like his stuff.
Ned Rorem - Piano Sonata No.1 - 2. Adagio (Theme and Variations)

[rachmaninoff_forever]

And if Sonatinas count

I thought Sonantinas were little pieces? 

[ahinton]

Szymanowski: Second Piano Sonata (second movement). Wonderul piece!

Best,

Alistair

[49410enrique]

Szymanowski: Second Piano Sonata (second movement). Wonderul piece!

Best,

Alistair

oooh i will most definately look for this!

[j_menz]

I thought Sonantinas were little pieces? 

They're generally shorter/easier/lighter than the same composer's Sonatas, but given the length/difficulty/heaviness of some Sonatas, they may still be quite substantial works.