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Offline mobydick

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How am I suppose to play ninetaves and tentaves?
on: May 15, 2012, 01:09:32 PM
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I've got ninetaves and tentatves and eleventaves (intervals of 9, 10, 11) on my right hand! how da hell is anyone physically (an human) suppose to do this? Need monkey fingers.

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Re: How am I suppose to play ninetaves and tentaves?
Reply #1 on: May 15, 2012, 02:17:56 PM
I can do 9's as long as there isn't also a third or something in there too. That's my limit though, can't reach 10's. Some people have big hands and have no problem with those intervals.

EDIT: I can reach 9's fine, barely 10's as long as there isn't some other interval in there.

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Re: How am I suppose to play ninetaves and tentaves?
Reply #2 on: May 15, 2012, 06:08:58 PM
I like to go window shopping once in a while for nice chord voicing. A few months ago I was fingering a chord when I thought the chord sounded best with a note from the lower registers -- a good octave and a half below where the majority of the notes for the chord were. I have small hands (I can only physically stretch my fingers to play a 9th) so making that stretch with my finger s let alone my hand was impossible. What did I do?

I figured since I had a nose (still do) and my body was free to pivot while my fingers played the notes of the chord, I would play that last note with my nose. Sure enough I did. Was it worth it? Yes  ;D

I'm not sure how much my advice is worth, being a beginner, but it's obvious that if you can't physically play the note you'll have to settle for a chord/note substitution/omission.

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Re: How am I suppose to play ninetaves and tentaves?
Reply #3 on: May 15, 2012, 08:22:15 PM

I figured since I had a nose (still do) and my body was free to pivot while my fingers played the notes of the chord, I would play that last note with my nose. Sure enough I did. Was it worth it? Yes  ;D

I'm not sure how much my advice is worth, being a beginner, but it's obvious that if you can't physically play the note you'll have to settle for a chord/note substitution/omission.

hum... how do you know if your nose is hitting the right key?

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Re: How am I suppose to play ninetaves and tentaves?
Reply #4 on: May 15, 2012, 09:14:46 PM
I like to go window shopping once in a while for nice chord voicing. A few months ago I was fingering a chord when I thought the chord sounded best with a note from the lower registers -- a good octave and a half below where the majority of the notes for the chord were. I have small hands (I can only physically stretch my fingers to play a 9th) so making that stretch with my finger s let alone my hand was impossible. What did I do?

I figured since I had a nose (still do) and my body was free to pivot while my fingers played the notes of the chord, I would play that last note with my nose. Sure enough I did. Was it worth it? Yes  ;D

I'm not sure how much my advice is worth, being a beginner, but it's obvious that if you can't physically play the note you'll have to settle for a chord/note substitution/omission.
Wow, I'd like to see someone doing that while playing on a presentation, would be kind of funny...

I've small hands too, can reach the 9th as you guys, stretching my hands...

Had the same problem to play Chopin Prelude no. 20, like, playing an 8th and a ninth at the same time, there is one of the chords that I plat both of them with my thumb, on the other chord, though, unfortunately I had to cut the lower ninth, don't think my hand would stand playing that many times.

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Re: How am I suppose to play ninetaves and tentaves?
Reply #5 on: May 16, 2012, 11:17:01 AM
Wow, I'd like to see someone doing that while playing on a presentation, would be kind of funny...

I've small hands too, can reach the 9th as you guys, stretching my hands...

Had the same problem to play Chopin Prelude no. 20, like, playing an 8th and a ninth at the same time, there is one of the chords that I plat both of them with my thumb, on the other chord, though, unfortunately I had to cut the lower ninth, don't think my hand would stand playing that many times.

I thought about playing the lower key with left hand. the problem is left hand is very soft arpegios and it will be difficult to make it sound like right hand which is cantabile.

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Re: How am I suppose to play ninetaves and tentaves?
Reply #6 on: May 16, 2012, 03:49:19 PM
I thought about playing the lower key with left hand. the problem is left hand is very soft arpegios and it will be difficult to make it sound like right hand which is cantabile.

Taurus bass pedals!

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Re: How am I suppose to play ninetaves and tentaves?
Reply #7 on: May 16, 2012, 05:33:15 PM
Taurus bass pedals!

i aint got that on my piano... not into heavy metal stuff. >:(

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Re: How am I suppose to play ninetaves and tentaves?
Reply #8 on: May 18, 2012, 07:28:40 AM
There are no huge stretches in this piece. As soon as there is a ninth involved in the chords you either play two notes with the right thumb or you roll them, like on the last page.
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