We can look at it inversely. Could european manage to understand asian music as well as asians? I doubt.
Computers typically apply completely different ways of "thinking" to top players regarding certain positional aspects: in certain types of position, a computer may calculate 10 moves ahead and evaluate the resulting position based on what it considers optimal play, whereas a GM may go by "feel" and evaluate the initial position based on certain concepts based on abstract understanding. In other positions a GM may be able to look further than a computer. See "horizon effect". I'm not going to comment on whether the Russian psyche lends itself to creativity, as I'm not Russian and don't know enough about it. .
Semantically speaking, are the computers creative? All the computer does is execute code
Perhaps. But don't you think it's strange then that Asians have adapted to European music and not the other way around?
Chess was always about art to me - oh the the beauty of a combination! I suppose that's one thing that differentiates people.
Perhaps. But don't you think it's strange then that Asians have adapted to European music and not the other way around? Additionally, if you compare the instruments invented in Europe with those from Asia, it's like Asians didn't rate music very highly on their list of priorities.But my main problem with Asian music is its musical scale, the Western scale just sounds much more aesthetic.
Again I'm not trying to put anyone down, but it appears that different longitudes/lattitudes have an influence on the distribution heart and mind. A bit like how Stoneage people made use of subtle energies by building built for example Stonehenge and the pyramids on certain energy gradients. I wouldn't even be surprised if Asians wanting to become musicians would do better if they lived and studied in Europe, and vice versa, stuff like mathematics/programming and philosophy in Asia.(but then again Newton, Einstein, were from the West)
I understand that for many on this forum, music is less about music and more about nationality, education , social standing etc, [...] it's a shame some let conformist attitudes and nationalism interfere with reality.
Asian music doesn't "sell" well, that's why many people are not interested in it, but that doesn't mean it has no great artistic value. I remember the great singer Paul Robeson doing splendid renditions of Chinese songs, and although we are not accustomed to them, it doesn't mean they are bad songs. How could they be? It's such an ancient culture, but we seem to accept only what "sells" well; things like martial arts, westernized "methods" of feng shui, "Chinese" food, especially adapted to our tastes, etc.
Again your assumptions: Associations of eastern culture and stoneage. I'm speechless. The Russians, for example, did much more than the West for programming and computing BECAUSE THEY HAD TECHNICALLY INFERIOR EQUIPMENT; that's why they were forced to think more and YES... be creative...
This again is misquoting what I wrote, I was referring to altitude/longitude etc(please read again if you didn't understand the first time)
Again I'm not trying to put anyone down, but it appears that different longitudes/lattitudes have an influence on the distribution heart and mind. A bit like how Stoneage people made use of subtle energies by building for example Stonehenge and the pyramids on certain energy gradients. I wouldn't even be surprised if Asians wanting to become musicians would do better if they lived and studied in Europe, and vice versa, stuff like mathematics/programming and philosophy in Asia.(but then again Newton, Einstein, were from the West)
Here, I'll repeat just in case you missed it the first time
But Horowitz, married or not, was gay, as was Richter.
Quote from: cmgBut Horowitz, married or not, was gay, as was Richter.Now you've gone and done it. Paul will be furious!
Now you've gone and done it. Paul will be furious!Don't worry I'm not. It's just that there is no proof for it, since Richter himself didn't admit it, and it does not fit in the picture of the man I knew. Otherwise, no hard feelings.Paul
And, out of respectful curiosity, what "picture of the man I knew," as you write, conflicts with him being homosexual? Did he deny his homosexuality to you, for example, by expressing bemusement or anger at the suggestions he was gay?
With Richter around, one would never even think of raising the subject! I remember him making some remarks about certain "not so beautiful" rumors going, but he was not explicit. He was not of this world, that's why I always perceive it as a bit unfair to apply earthy principles in trying to explain who he was.Paul
I'm sure you know the Bruno Monsaingeon film about him, entitled appropriately enough, "The Enigma." He really wasn't of this earth.
Both, living in a different and even more unenlightened time than this one is (if you can imagine that)...
By the way, there are many hidden tricks in that film that give a certain depth, but you have to know Russian. For example, when Richter starts telling about Yudina citing poems without teeth, the camera suddenly points to a tombstone of a certain "Zubov" (litt. of the Teeth family ). The end should have been shot in Moscow, but Monsaingeon was too late; Richter had already died. That's why he took the "I don't like myself" quote as a kind of farewell, but actually Richter said that after they had listened together to a recording of Richter's Beethoven op. 111...Paul
lol. uh.... the Dark Ages... last year?Just yesterday Dick Cheney's daughter publically married her long term lesbian partner in a cermony with friends and family in attendance.Not to mention we have a black president of the USA.Compared to even a decade ago, these are the MOST enlightened times, at least in America.
Well, America's a tricky place politically
Well, I suspect you're young and idealistic and very left leaning -- and that's not a bad thing, it just goes with the territory.
Care, by contrast, to live in Muslim countries where women must be covered in public, can be and are murdered by their husbands under certain circumstances with impunity. Where people are hauled into police stations without benefit of "search and seizure" laws or attorneys or rights. And publically acknowledging your "gayness".... can you imagine what would happen to you?
I said he was an "empty suit" who'd basically fooled everyone, and sure enough, he has not only not kept any of his key promises -- the reason he was elected, plus the politically correct motivations -- he has taken a bad economy and made it much, much worse.
But then, a Capitalistic country is much like an incredibly large and complex business, and Obama has never even held a job that we know of, has no practical qualifications, etc.
The Tea Party, unlike the standard talking points of the left you present them as -- is by and large a group of conservatives (not necessarily Republicans, but independents and democrats also) who want to "conserve" what we have as Americans that has made us strong and successful.
That is the most idiotic pile of garbage I have read all day.
Well, I suspect you're young and idealistic and very left leaning -- and that's not a bad thing, it just goes with the territory. But I'll likely not convince you of anything, and will not try, other than to express a few of my views about the subject.Anyway, I'm not going to change your mind, but I disagree that the times we are living in are nearly as unenlightened as you think. I merely suggest you don't have sufficient perspective to notice.
Yes, I'm a leftie. That's my political and cultural bias. And I'm not even remotely offended by your pointing this out. Pace. We can still be friends, yes?