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Offline chopiabin

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3rd Scherzo
on: September 30, 2004, 08:25:28 AM
Has anyone played this? Advice, tips, pointers?

This piece seems to be a lot of octave technique with some arpeggio work as well. Just looking at it, I would think that it's easier than the second Scherzo, but can anyone tell me how they compare?

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Re: 3rd Scherzo
Reply #1 on: September 30, 2004, 06:01:48 PM
It's harder than the 2nd Scherzo. The coda is pretty nasty I think, but it's perfectly managable if you've already played a similar piece (Ballades 1-2-3, etc)

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Re: 3rd Scherzo
Reply #2 on: September 30, 2004, 06:08:52 PM
I'm hoping for this piece to be a"stretch piece". I haven'y played the Ballades, but they are in my wish list - I'm hoping that this piece can be a stepping stone to those. Plus, I love the 3rd Scherzo and only like the 2nd.

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Re: 3rd Scherzo
Reply #3 on: October 01, 2004, 10:02:39 PM
I think it would be ideal as a first Chopin 'big piece'. What other pieces (the hardest) have you played?

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Re: 3rd Scherzo
Reply #4 on: October 01, 2004, 11:44:06 PM
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Has anyone played this? Advice, tips, pointers?

This piece seems to be a lot of octave technique with some arpeggio work as well. Just looking at it, I would think that it's easier than the second Scherzo, but can anyone tell me how they compare?


I played it years ago. Never played the 2nd Scherzo - except to read through a few times -  so I can't compare the two. IMO, the third is a little more difficult, but the techniques are so different, that if you have good octaves you may think the 3rd is a little easier.
I don't remember having a problem with it, but yes, the coda is tricky.
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Re: 3rd Scherzo
Reply #5 on: October 02, 2004, 02:31:28 AM
I'm playing this for das julliard audition - it is harder than the second scherzo, and some of the ballades also. There is serious octave technique, very long controlled passages, quite serious. The coda is not that difficult - its very facile. By far the hardest part are the descending broken arppegios - not just getting the right tone and voicing (very hard) but just get the darned things to stay under control! It's even worse when it goes into E, and worst of all in e minor - mostly white notes. Not only are they very fast, but you have exactly one beat to leap from the basso chords in fortissimo up to the top of the piano into a completely different color in pianissimo. If you want to tackle this piece, first see if you are comfortable with these passages.

PS. Why do you think the coda is tricky?
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Offline rob47

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Re: 3rd Scherzo
Reply #6 on: October 19, 2005, 11:56:40 PM
Takaya "da HITMAN" Sano, killed this piece in the 1st round of the chopin competition.

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Offline stevie

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Re: 3rd Scherzo
Reply #7 on: October 20, 2005, 01:09:46 AM
i found his interpetation lacking in dullness.

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Re: 3rd Scherzo
Reply #8 on: October 20, 2005, 01:41:05 AM
Which '3rd Scherzo'?!?!? Plenty of composers made them. I don't know if youre talking about Brahms, Haydn, Chopin, Beethoven, Schumann, or Schubert, etc. I don't make ass|ump|tions because like my teacher says: your an ass, and an ump will tion you ;D
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