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Topic: Looking for feedback on my Tetris theme arrangement (Video included)  (Read 1299 times)

Offline bustthewave

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Hey guys, this is a WIP right now, and has a long ways to go, but as I'm constructing the piece I'd like some feedback as I'm trying to arrange the piece both musically and sophisticatedly (I feel like the word "sophisticated" becomes less sophisticated when I add the "ly" at the end).

For one, I'm wondering if my left hand is a bit repetitive and boring? In general, the base structure is just a 1 5 1 note pattern, with added jumps to emphasize harmony. The left hand harmony also tends to move in the same direction as the main right hand melody, and given that this isn't a contrapuntal piece, I'm wondering does the parallel movements take anything away from the piece that counter movements might add?

Anyway, would love any feedback or criticism or suggestions you guys have :).



P.S. I hope I've posted this in the right forum, my apologies if I haven't.

Offline sphince

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you need to extent this into a full form sonata with 1st theme tetris ( the one you've made),2nd theme pacman,development with hints from mario and recapiculation with tonic exposure of the themes and name it Retro Games Sonata do it and i swear I'll be the first to upload a recording this is effin' brilliant! :P :P :P :P
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Offline bustthewave

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you need to extent this into a full form sonata with 1st theme tetris ( the one you've made),2nd theme pacman,development with hints from mario and recapiculation with tonic exposure of the themes and name it Retro Games Sonata do it and i swear I'll be the first to upload a recording this is effin' brilliant! :P :P :P :P

holy crapola, how in the WORLD did I not think about that?! I'm 100% doing that!! I've studied the sonata form a bit a few months ago (how it would recapitulate and modulate, and a bit about cadences in the sonata form), and this would be the PERFECT project to really dig deeper into :D.

Though that brings up an interesting question I've had: what makes a movement versus a part/section? Like with Chopin's prelude no.15 (the "raindrop" prelude), it has a clear A-B-A pattern, but I don't think part B would be considered a "second movement," despite a drastic change in character.

Is it a length issue? Because aren't multi-movement pieces typically about 20-45 minutes total?

Either way thank you SO much for the idea, and for the feedback :). If I pull this off, you will get due credit haha.

EDIT: So I did some research, and yea... pac-man is out (since the melody is like... 5 seconds long), and Mario is such a completely different style, murging the two might not be beneficial. BUT! I had totally forgotten that Tetris has 3 different themes :). I could easily do a 4 movement piece with those, making a sonata out of the first theme. The third theme (theme C) sounds like a lot of fun, it's heavily contrapuntal and I could easily turn it into a fugue :P.

Offline 49410enrique

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if you're particularly adept at advanced harmonization i think you can look to make a short fast little prelude in a style similar to what some of thelate romantic or early modern composers did with folk melodies, i'd listen to and study lots of bartok, the kabalevsky preludes,  etc and see if you can incorporate some diatonicism or more interplay with less traditional tonal centers and make it sound more '20th century' in the modern piano music sense. i.e. maybe something like this, this prelude has a folk tune basis if my musicology background memory on it serves me well




but yeah you show some cool skill here so keep playing w it. :)

Offline sphince

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To be honest I only have done some basic analysis to sonata forms but I think I can answer sort of :P. basically the movement that's always in form sonata is the first and sometimes the 3rd(exclude the menuets,trios,scherzos).The sonata form Itself in the first mov. is divided in A-B-A'.and exposure and recapiculation is itself divided into theme a-bridge-theme b(introduction and coda aside).
So if you look at it this way exposure and recapiculation is also divided in a-b-a'.So my guess would be that the A-B-A' form is pretty much used in anything(preludes,etudes,menuets,scherzos,sonatas,parts of sonatas etc.).So at the end it is really a matter of the composer's intention and the gravity of the piece(obviously a prelude can't be 40 min long or a movement of a sonata 5 min long).So yes it is also a matter of length.
(I hope that from the wall of text above you understood something of what I just spit on the keyboard :P)

MODIFY:About the pacman theme,you can't just draw it out.You shouldn't use it as it is anyway 5 seconds with correct modification can turn into 20 second.Off the top of my head I'll give an example.Take the original theme,repost it a 5th higher but instead off the upgoing melody in the end go downwards then use 1 element from it (say the first 5 notes) and use it to end the enlarged theme,then repeat...See I'm by no means a composer or studied composition but I just gave you an example of theme advancement,this is widely used in complex ways in theme&variations.I'm sure you can do much better than me at this :))

Anyway,about your project.I would suggest to gather all the themes in question and start playing around with them in terms of harmonizing.For example the tetris theme is pretty straightforward in terms of harmony so(as enrique also said)you can fiddle with it and add a more funky left hand while adding to your right hand enriched chords.I'm looking forwards to see how this goes :P
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