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Offline rachmaninoff_forever

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What if...
on: June 14, 2012, 02:53:20 AM
You know how there's 88 keys on the piano?  What if the keys were divided by 1/4th steps rather than half steps?  So that would be 176 keys!  Wouldn't that be kool?  It would open up so many possibilities for composing!

I don't know, that's just a thought.
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Offline j_menz

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Re: What if...
Reply #1 on: June 14, 2012, 03:20:43 AM
I have quite enough trouble with 88.  :-[
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Re: What if...
Reply #2 on: June 14, 2012, 03:57:13 AM
You know how there's 88 keys on the piano?  What if the keys were divided by 1/4th steps rather than half steps?  So that would be 176 keys!  Wouldn't that be kool?  It would open up so many possibilities for composing!

I don't know, that's just a thought.

Just imagine: how are you going to teach a beginner? As it is now, you can start with a C scale and don't even have to explain anything theoretically. You will also have to relearn the whole existing repertoire, fingering, etc.

P.S.: Actually, attempts to "improve" upon the existing 88-keys keyboard have been made. There is, for example, the Paul Jankó keyboard (1882) with 264 keys, but it didn't become popular, mainly because of the reasons I mentioned. If this is ever to happen, it will probably only benefit the composers and maybe the listeners, but certainly not the performers. Although... I read somewhere that composers would rather get rid of the performer anyway to remove certain limits in physical execution, so it could all be "for the best"...

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Offline j_menz

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Re: What if...
Reply #3 on: June 14, 2012, 04:08:20 AM
I read somewhere that composers would rather get rid of the performer anyway to remove certain limits in physical execution

Or to remove certain impediments to collecting more of the royalties.
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Re: What if...
Reply #4 on: June 14, 2012, 05:05:46 AM
What if the keys were divided by 1/4th steps rather than half steps?  So that would be 176 keys!  Wouldn't that be kool?

If you get a violin and you'll likely play all the subtle variations in between, despite still using a 12 note chromatic scale.

I actually have a friend who does electronic composition and maps the change in temperament throughout the piece to maintain perfect harmony despite modulations.

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Reply #5 on: June 14, 2012, 05:08:58 AM
If you get a violin and you'll likely play all the subtle variations in between, despite still using a 12 note chromatic scale.

In my (very) limited experience with the violin, I managed to get most of the subtle variations between while avoiding the 12 note chromatic scale almost entirely.  :-[
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Re: What if...
Reply #6 on: June 14, 2012, 07:14:22 PM
Not even Rachmaninoff's hands would be able to play even a fifth in a piano like this.
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Re: What if...
Reply #7 on: June 15, 2012, 01:17:21 PM
Quarter tone piano;

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Re: What if...
Reply #9 on: June 15, 2012, 09:28:44 PM
I'm finally getting proficient in piano tuning and you want to screw up my world? Thanks alot.  ::)

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Re: What if...
Reply #10 on: November 05, 2012, 02:10:06 AM

 ;D
as you were.

Offline rachmaninoff_forever

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Reply #11 on: November 05, 2012, 04:25:46 AM

 ;D
as you were.

I'm not embarrassed by this one.

I STILL think it's a kool idea!

So you'll have to find another one kid! :P
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Offline 49410enrique

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Re: What if...
Reply #12 on: November 05, 2012, 11:36:55 AM
I'm not embarrassed by this one.

I STILL think it's a kool idea!

So you'll have to find another one kid! :P
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