I'm crazily deeply madly in love with Valentina Lisitsa

[ajspiano]

As someone who knows how to appreciate true beauty in members of the opposite sex, I would like to say that some women in their 40s give many women in their 20s a run for their money!

Paul

Even without having the necessary experience in all areas I would've argued that also..

[outin]

As someone who knows how to appreciate true beauty in members of the opposite sex, I would like to say that some women in their 40s give many women in their 20s a run for their money!

I am sure he just meant they run a bit slower...

[p2u_]

I am sure he just meant they run a bit slower...

That would depend on their condition and the amount of training they've had, not on their absolute age. Even if this is true, though, as long as they don't run AWAY, I can live with that.

Paul

[ahinton]

The issue here (if and to the extent that there really is one) is not about how fit certain women over the age of 40 might be or indeed whether, as j_menz suggested, "some women in their 40s give many women in their 20s a run for their money" but about the appropriateness or otherwise of harbouring and/or expressing feelings (if that is indeed what they are) for a married woman of 40+ on a public internet forum as repeatedly as has been done here.

Yawn...

Best,

Alistair

[p2u_]

The issue here (if and to the extent that there really is one) is not about how fit certain women over the age of 40 might be or indeed whether, as j_menz suggested, "some women in their 40s give many women in their 20s a run for their money"

Actually, it was me who suggested this because I thought some remarks about women of 40+ could be understood negatively. Sorry for the off-topic.

but about the appropriateness or otherwise of harbouring and/or expressing feelings (if that is indeed what they are) for a married woman of 40+ on a public internet forum as repeatedly as has been done here.

As to this issue, I can only react in good humor and congratulate Valentina:

[To see who that is, go here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000932/]

A celebrity hasn't made it until they've got their own stalker.

Paul

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Actually, it was me who suggested this because I thought some remarks about women of 40+ could be understood negatively. Sorry for the off-topic.

As to this issue, I can only react in good humor and congratulate Valentina:

Paul

Hey I'm not a freaking stalker!!!

[ahinton]

Hey I'm not a freaking stalker!!!

That has not yet been for a judge in a court of law to decide and, for your sake, I hope that it never becomes a matter for such a judge's decision.

Best,

Alistair

[thalbergmad]

In the beauty stakes, Lisitsa is good to average at best.

I see prettier women serving at McDonalds.

Thal

[chopin2015]

Difference is, lisitsa is really good at her piano, and the girls at mcdonalds are probably not as experienced with music, if at all experienced.

[thalbergmad]

Indeed, but is Lisitsa any good at serving a Breakfast Meal??

Thal

[ahinton]

In the beauty stakes, Lisitsa is good to average at best.

"At best" indeed - though let's not turn this unnecessarily into a Lisitsa-bashing exercise, since the context is hardly or her making.

I see prettier women serving at McDonalds.

For one thing, few if any of them can in all probability play the piano at all and, for another, what are you doing in the environs of McDonald's when you make so much of exercising and trying to lose weight and become fitter?

Best,

Alistair

[rachmaninoff_forever]

In the beauty stakes, Lisitsa is good to average at best.

I see prettier women serving at McDonalds.

Thal

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder.

[chopin2015]

Indeed, but is Lisitsa any good at serving a Breakfast Meal??

Thal

Whats so great about the breakfast meal?   

[thalbergmad]

The hash browns of course

[ajspiano]

Whats so great about the breakfast meal?   

Really?

Having prepared by someone other than yourself.

[ahinton]

The hash browns of course

Well, our resident alleged stalker should know this already, having made more than a mere hash of his imagined relationship with a certain female pianist and ensuring that most of us here are thoroughly browned off with repeatedly hearing about it.

Best,

Alistair

[chopin2015]

Really?

Having prepared by someone other than yourself.

Haha!

Ok...

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Well, our resident alleged stalker should know this already, having made more than a mere hash of his imagined relationship with a certain female pianist and ensuring that most of us here are thoroughly browned off with repeatedly hearing about it.

Best,

Alistair

I'm not a freaking stalker!!!
 

[ahinton]

I'm not a freaking stalker!!!

Read my post more carefully; I wrote "alleged" stalker!

Best,

Alistair

[chadbrochill17]

This thread is still alive?
Seriously why can't this be locked or something.

Nobody. Cares. At. All.

[ahinton]

This thread is still alive?
Seriously why can't this be locked or something.

Nobody. Cares. At. All.

Well, one may suppose that one person does - but it's up to Nils as to whether and when the thread might be closed.

Best,

Alistair

[rachmaninoff_forever]

This thread is still alive?
Seriously why can't this be locked or something.

Nobody. Cares. At. All.

That's why it's 7 pages long right?  If you don't like it, then just don't read it.

Anyways, the original purpose of this thread is to promote Valentina Lisitsa because I think she's a pretty good pianist, and I am in love with her.  Notice how I don't bump this thread unless I think there's something worth posting, or if I'm replying to someone.

ANYWAYS, I'm buying this once I get some money.  I'll have to save my lunch money for three days.

[ahinton]

Anyways, the original purpose of this thread is to promote Valentina Lisitsa

So are you really seriously trying to persuade us all that Valentina Lisitsa is under-promoted? I would have thought that, in some respects, she's done more self-promotion than most artists!

because I think she's a pretty good pianist

She's not bad; there are plenty worse and plenty better.

and I am in love with her

But she doesn't even know that, does she? (and nor, I assume, does her husband)...

Best,

Alistair

[j_menz]

I'll have to save my lunch money for three days.

Good lord, it really is love! 

[ahinton]

Good lord, it really is love! 

But not so much so that he's saving to take her out to lunch, methinks (and I mean "out to lunch" in the literal sense - I think..)

Best,

Alistair

[rachmaninoff_forever]

So are you really seriously trying to persuade us all that Valentina Lisitsa is under-promoted? I would have thought that, in some respects, she's done more self-promotion than most artists!
She's not bad; there are plenty worse and plenty better.
But she doesn't even know that, does she? (and nor, I assume, does her husband)...

Best,

Alistair

I'm not saying that she's under-promoted.

[ahinton]

I'm not saying that she's under-promoted.

OK, then just what are you saying? And why do you persist in these inanely repetitious declarations of "love" for someone whom you've never met and who's married to someone else? What's the point (if any) that you're trying to make?

Best,

Alistair

[rachmaninoff_forever]

OK, then just what are you saying? And why do you persist in these inanely repetitious declarations of "love" for someone whom you've never met and who's married to someone else? What's the point (if any) that you're trying to make?

Best,

Alistair

I'm just sharing her music because I think she's a kickass pianist, it's as simple as that.

And me saying that I love her is just a side note.  Ignore it if you want, it's not a big deal.

Well actually the title was made to get people's attention.

And who says you can't love someone you've never met before?!

[chadbrochill17]

That's why it's 7 pages long right?  If you don't like it, then just don't read it.

Anyways, the original purpose of this thread is to promote Valentina Lisitsa because I think she's a pretty good pianist, and I am in love with her.  Notice how I don't bump this thread unless I think there's something worth posting, or if I'm replying to someone.

ANYWAYS, I'm buying this once I get some money.  I'll have to save my lunch money for three days.

Originally I was the first person to post to this thread. But I realized that you aren't just posting here to promote a great painist, which I think Valentina is.

Instead, I see this thread as turning into a great example of how immature you are and something that if I had started I wish would be erased from the internet.
You are NOT in love with Valentina Lisista. You are not. I honestly do not care what you say. You are a teenager who probably has never experienced what love actually is and instead are mistaking infatuation for love.
Would you take a bullet for Valentina? Would you willingly give up your life so that she would live? Honestly, love is an EXTREMELY serious word that we are just throwing around here without any regard to. You do NOT love her. Love is an EXTREMELY serious word. Please do not devalue it by using it for a crush or infatuation. And also do not respond with, "You just don't understand." Yes we do. We've all been there because we've all been your age. I got dumped by a girl I thought I was going to spend the rest of my life with two years ago, which was when I was the same age as you. You think you have love understood at that age and you really don't.
If you would like to turn this thread into about how Valentina is a great pianist, FINE. I'd be all for that. She is by far one of my favorite pianists. As of right now, I am ashamed to have posted here before. It soils the value of the word love and the reputation of Valentina Lisitsa.

[outin]

It's perfectly normal for the very young to "be in love" with people they have never met or that are in other ways an impossible target. In fact that is a very important element of popular culture. Either some of you are too old to remember or you missed that part of growing up... The classical musicians have not fully exploited this phenomena yet, but I am sure that some will want to because the fan culture gets you record sales and in other ways boosts the income.

And to be honest, R-4 is beginning to appear very sane compared to some others on this forum

[j_menz]

It's perfectly normal for the very young to "be in love" with people they have never met ot that are in other ways an impossible target.

Indeed. I find people I've never met much easier to "love" in that ideal 17 year old sense than people I actually know. Less threatening, no bad habits and always in a good mood. Not quite as much fun in other ways, nor as interesting, but what the hey.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Originally I was the first person to post to this thread. But I realized that you aren't just posting here to promote a great painist, which I think Valentina is.

Instead, I see this thread as turning into a great example of how immature you are and something that if I had started I wish would be erased from the internet.
You are NOT in love with Valentina Lisista. You are not. I honestly do not care what you say. You are a teenager who probably has never experienced what love actually is and instead are mistaking infatuation for love.
Would you take a bullet for Valentina? Would you willingly give up your life so that she would live? Honestly, love is an EXTREMELY serious word that we are just throwing around here without any regard to. You do NOT love her. Love is an EXTREMELY serious word. Please do not devalue it by using it for a crush or infatuation. And also do not respond with, "You just don't understand." Yes we do. We've all been there because we've all been your age. I got dumped by a girl I thought I was going to spend the rest of my life with two years ago, which was when I was the same age as you. You think you have love understood at that age and you really don't.
If you would like to turn this thread into about how Valentina is a great pianist, FINE. I'd be all for that. She is by far one of my favorite pianists. As of right now, I am ashamed to have posted here before. It soils the value of the word love and the reputation of Valentina Lisitsa.

Don't tell me what I'm here to do or what my feelings are.

If you don't like this thread, then just don't pay attention to it.  Or just don't pay attention to the title.

You're the immature one for whining over nothing.

Douchebag.

[ahinton]

Don't tell me what I'm here to do or what my feelings are.

If you don't like this thread, then just don't pay attention to it.  Or just don't pay attention to the title.

You're the immature one for whining over nothing.

Douchebag.

Now there's an attitude of mind that will surely endear itself to Ms Lisitsa; not.

No one is telling you what you should and should not do, nor even what your feelings should or should not be but, since you've made so much here of your alleged "love" for this pianist (as distinct from your admiration for her playing, which I don't particularly share, but that's neither here nor there, really), you must expect that others here might feel inclined (as indeed they have) to comment upon your remarks and that what you write will likely invite disagreeing and possibly disagreeable (to you) responses. The facts are that (a) you are not personally acquainted with one another personally and have never even met, (b) she is married, (c) if you did meet her it is unlikely that you would declare your alleged "love" for her to her and (d) you probably know very little about her as a person, which you'd really need to do in order to ascertain whether or not you "love" her. What you seem to have instead is a mere infatuation with your perceived image of her solely on the basis of her playing (which you obviously admire greatly) and her appearance such as you have seen of it (most examples of which will be with her seated in front of a piano).

You're therefore not doing your personal credibility any favours by going one about "winning her heart" and all that stuff, especially as it seems that you have made no specific efforts of any kind to do so.

Best,

Alistair

[chopin2015]

honestly...rach 4 is showing dedication, personality and strength. He knows she is married, and older and whatever...He has a vision of what he respects and appreciates, and obviously piano is important to him and he looks up to her for her abilities. The thread mostly involved conversation, and discussion of Lisitsa's most appreciated trait-her pianistic abilities and virtuosity. This is not a "I don't appreciate Lisitsa so I will flame anyone who likes her for any reason" thread...
You must be really old school. If this thread was about Arthur Rubinstein, I wonder what you would respond with...

[ahinton]

honestly...rach 4 is showing dedication, personality and strength. He knows she is married, and older and whatever...He has a vision of what he respects and appreciates, and obviously piano is important to him and he looks up to her for her abilities. The thread mostly involved conversation, and discussion of Lisitsa's most appreciated trait-her pianistic abilities and virtuosity. This is not a "I don't appreciate Lisitsa so I will flame anyone who likes her for any reason" thread...
You must be really old school. If this thread was about Arthur Rubinstein, I wonder what you would respond with...

If it were all about piano playing, that would be different. It isn't, quite obviously. I'm not any school. Rubinstein has nothing to do with it.

Best,

Alistair

[chopin2015]

Sure it is, we talk about how she practices. We all practice and it is important to know what works for other people and what doesn't. She's a pianist, a modern one. This brought up many topics related to piano to talk about.

[chadbrochill17]

Now there's an attitude of mind that will surely endear itself to Ms Lisitsa; not.

No one is telling you what you should and should not do, nor even what your feelings should or should not be but, since you've made so much here of your alleged "love" for this pianist (as distinct from your admiration for her playing, which I don't particularly share, but that's neither here nor there, really), you must expect that others here might feel inclined (as indeed they have) to comment upon your remarks and that what you write will likely invite disagreeing and possibly disagreeable (to you) responses. The facts are that (a) you are not personally acquainted with one another personally and have never even met, (b) she is married, (c) if you did meet her it is unlikely that you would declare your alleged "love" for her to her and (d) you probably know very little about her as a person, which you'd really need to do in order to ascertain whether or not you "love" her. What you seem to have instead is a mere infatuation with your perceived image of her solely on the basis of her playing (which you obviously admire greatly) and her appearance such as you have seen of it (most examples of which will be with her seated in front of a piano).

You're therefore not doing your personal credibility any favours by going one about "winning her heart" and all that stuff, especially as it seems that you have made no specific efforts of any kind to do so.

Best,

Alistair

This. Rach clearly does not know the difference between love and infatuation and that is exactly what I said. Maybe I came off a little too harsh, but I don't really care. No one else was telling him what needed to be said.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

This. Rach clearly does not know the difference between love and infatuation and that is exactly what I said. Maybe I came off a little too harsh, but I don't really care. No one else was telling him what needed to be said.

No, you actually didn't come off as harsh at all.  You and that Anhiton kid just came off as pretentious douchebags trying to ruin my fun.  I know myself better than you and Anhiton do, so don't act like you're soo on, snot-nosed punks.

[chopin2015]

hey do you know when she will live stream again? I wanna watch!

[rachmaninoff_forever]

hey do you know when she will live stream again? I wanna watch!

I know she's having a Recital coming up soon, and I think she's gonna stream it.

Hopefully she doesn't let the audience choose the repertoire, because last time was a disaster!!!

[chopin2015]

yes, quite sad...lol

[chadbrochill17]

No, you actually didn't come off as harsh at all.  You and that Anhiton kid just came off as pretentious douchebags trying to ruin my fun.  I know myself better than you and Anhiton do, so don't act like you're soo on, snot-nosed punks.

You're "fun" happens to be denying the fact you aren't actually in love with her. I take great offense to you claiming the contrary. I don't think you really understand what love is and that is sad. If this thread were simply about Valentina's great piano playing, which has been posted, that would be fine. However, the title and the way you respond to people questioning your "love" are just plain immature and show this thread is more than just plain admiration of piano playing.

Also, I never once insulted you directly, and neither did Allistar. Calling you immature is not an ad hoc like calling us douchebags. It just proves my point really. Allistar isn't a kid either.

[thalbergmad]

Allistar isn't a kid either.

Indeed, and he has a bus pass to prove it.

Thal

[j_menz]

I take great offense

Perhaps you should be more judicious in taking great offence lest you wear yourself out before you become chadbrochill20.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

You're "fun" happens to be denying the fact you aren't actually in love with her. I take great offense to you claiming the contrary. I don't think you really understand what love is and that is sad. If this thread were simply about Valentina's great piano playing, which has been posted, that would be fine. However, the title and the way you respond to people questioning your "love" are just plain immature and show this thread is more than just plain admiration of piano playing.

Also, I never once insulted you directly, and neither did Allistar. Calling you immature is not an ad hoc like calling us douchebags. It just proves my point really. Allistar isn't a kid either.

Oh, so you're offended?

I'll give you a little math problem.

I started out the day with a bushel of 12 fucks.  It's now the end of the day, and I still have 12 fucks.  

How many fucks did I give about you being offended?

I'm not apologizing.

[j_menz]

[austinarg]

You still didn't solve his math problem.

[j_menz]

You still didn't solve his math problem.

I'm part of the civilised world where bushels no longer mean anythng.

[patrickd]

12-0=12

[austinarg]

I'm part of the civilised world where bushels no longer mean anythng.

I hope you are also a part of the intelligent population who knows that the metric system is the only logical way of measuring things.