I recall a story of a church musician that liked to improvise. For some reason he got scolded for doing that by the priest. Perhaps improvisation was thought to have much lower regard than that of written music. He created a "persona" for himself and printed that in the Sunday program, and continued to improvise. From that time on the priest absolutely loved the music by "M. Ozart."
It is sometimes worth remembering that "snob" is an English word, and originally derived from the abbreviation after a student's name at Oxford -- "s.nob." -- which meant "not from the nobility" (at a time when that really did mean something). I try to ignore them (and I have a couple in my family, sadly enough). Since I don't have to play anything (there's a lot to be said for being retired!) I simply don't play anything when they are around.Some of the worst snobs are to be found in the world of opera -- although ballet isn't far behind.
Ballet snobs... I really love those. A few months ago I went to the theatre to watch Swan Lake. Next to me, there was a young man who passionately counted every fouette the dancer made. Instead of 32 she made 31. He was so mad... And the lady who was apparently with him called the poor dancer "idiotic cow". I was shocked. I never count the fouettes because I know how hard it is to do 32! Not everybody is Pierrina Legnani and people should respect that.
"Stupid things musical snobs say to us?"Just ask anyone I talk to. I'm horrible at being a snob myself
I don't know if that's snobbish, I wasn't raging at anyone.
I went to their studio to do some *jammin'*
.I was never fascinated about *black music*
I thought you were a true musician,pentatonic scales are the most important scales in music.
Him:Oh come on man your killing mah vibe here...We are true musicians and we must show the black roots of the music we're playing.Pentatonics are what the black men played through their struggle.We have to show that mang!:@ Me:Well I don't think it's easy to show it,we're all white
No, Scriabin's Mystic scales are the most important scales in music!!!!!!
Mystic scales? I thought it was just a chord. Either way, it's truly amazing that anything was written before he stumbled across it. Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert........ however did they cope?
duh, anyone that knows anything about music knows they ... trolled each other ... and debated ad nausam about the same topics
Mystic scales? I thought it was just a chord.
Well chords are in scales right?
Jazz snobs. They're the most annoying people in the world. They're worse than classical snobs, I find. Classical snobs tend to have a cold, businesslike demeanor, but jazz snobs are just smug. They act as though they've found the holy grail or something. Most of the time they're very, very ignorant. They treat non-jazz musicians as if they possess no creativity at all and are just reciting things by rote as if it were a spelling bee (which is only sometimes the case). They're really awful. Note: Jazz snobs, not jazz musicians, for the most part jazz musicians are awesome people.
Clearly, you haven't had any conversations with blues snobs... I can't stand when someone so vehemently composes complexity, adventurousness and even technical ability. Why must they insist on music being dumbed down enough for them to digest every note separately?
I grew up with reverse snobs. Most kids in public schools are like that... anything sounding like 'classical' or 'piano' is "totally gay", and rock music or ' the new hot 89.9' (the crappy radio station that only really plays Rihanna) is what music is all about.
Am I a snob snob?
Welcome to the club. Your membership badge is in the post.
The only club(s) I would want to be a part of is the Rachmaninoff and/or Scriabin club! Maybe the Valentina Lisitsa and Horowitz club as well.But one thing is for sure: I am a Rachmaninoff/Scriabin snob and is proud of it!
But one thing is for sure: I am a Rachmaninoff/Scriabin snob and is proud of it!
The only club(s) I would want to be a part of is the Rachmaninoff and/or Scriabin club!
Disclaimer:The music in which I will be referring is not included in the context of this forum,I have no purpose of hating on this particular genre of music nor it's followers,all rights reserved.One day I was contacted by a guitarist and a singer who wanted me to play with them on a so called "jazz bar" and do some improvs and a couple of their songs for some cash so I went to their studio to do some *jammin'*.I was never fascinated about *black music* but I could use the cash so I accepted.The following evening I went there to meet them and we started the improvs.The guitarist said "Guys the main idea for this one is b- pentatonic" Me:*Um excuse me Sir* What is pentatonic? Him:You don't know the pentatonic blues scales? Me:Nope Him:How's that?? I thought you were a true musician,pentatonic scales are the most important scales in music.We can't just show up and play *betoven* and *tsopin* Me:I think it doesn't provide enough variety. Him:Oh come on man your killing mah vibe here...We are true musicians and we must show the black roots of the music we're playing.Pentatonics are what the black men played through their struggle.We have to show that mang!:@ Me:Well I don't think it's easy to show it,we're all white(trolled) Anyway How about we improvise on a major(or minor) scale so that I can follow? Him:What's major?
Personal preference cannot be debated, whatever universal qualities either party of contradictory opinion might ascribe to a given music. We either like and enjoy something or we do not. Because somebody is considered a genius, or famous, does not imply I am somehow morally bound to pay attention to his music.