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Offline idreamofpiano

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chopins fantasy in f minor
on: July 11, 2012, 12:07:22 AM
how do you count starting with measure 68? the section where the tempo speeds up a little>
thanks ! ;D

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Re: chopins fantasy in f minor
Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 12:20:49 AM
how do you count starting with measure 68? the section where the tempo speeds up a little>
thanks ! ;D

Why count at all? I don't mean to sound like a foolhardy maverick who thinks he's too good for such things as counting in general, but I honestly can't see any notable purpose to it here. Why not just feel the pulse of the natural movement? The rhythm is ongoing in a natural flow. What would counting add to anything?

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Re: chopins fantasy in f minor
Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 12:47:12 AM
that's the way i feel about counting in general. but college professors pound me for not using proper technique when i play classical_in a sense how do i get the notes to come up to two beats a measure. basically referring to left hand. is there some kind of phrase i can say to get the notes to match up ro the rhythm/pulse?

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Re: chopins fantasy in f minor
Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 01:01:36 AM
that's the way i feel about counting in general. but college professors pound me for not using proper technique when i play classical_in a sense how do i get the notes to come up to two beats a measure. basically referring to left hand. is there some kind of phrase i can say to get the notes to match up ro the rhythm/pulse?

To start with, play it slowly but imagine the sound of three quaver triplets within every crotchet (so you feel twelve whole triplet notes in the long semibreves- not just a long note). That way, you're not using a "cheat" but genuinely understanding and feeling the ongoing flow of internal movement. As you go faster, there should still be a feeling of that movement ticking away inside. From there, start to just feel each crotchet and finally each minim- but consider that minims don't give much sense of pulse here. It's by feeling the flow of shorter notes first, that you can go on to feel just two per bar. With the tempo changing and probably rather unstable here, the locations of minim beats are relatively meaningless, unless you feel the pacing of the notes that lead between them.
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