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Offline Terry-Piano

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Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
on: October 05, 2004, 11:48:08 PM
|Hey
       Anyone got scores of these 3 pieces... they are amazing and I'd like to begin work on them... especially the first one for left-hand only....If somebody doesnt know what im talking about.... Go get MArc-Andre HAmelin playing it... you'll be left speechless
I've got his CD live at Wilgmore HAll...one of the best CDs I own in my opinion..here is what it contains :

1-Beethoven/Alkan Fisrt movement from Piano Concerto no.3 ( AMAZING)
2-Chopin/Balakirev romanza from PianoConcertono.1(piano only)
3-Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
6-Busoni- Sonatina no.6 Kammer-Fantasie uber Carmen
7-Medtner Danza festiva op.38/3

And did you know he recorded Godowskis Chopin Etudes ???? what an amazing guy :P

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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #1 on: October 07, 2004, 11:03:34 AM
https://piano.francais.free.fr/alkan/04_partitions_en.html

I don't think you'll be able to print them out as the rights to them are reserved by the publisher.

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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #2 on: May 12, 2006, 01:44:25 AM
w00t. I have decided that these pieces are some of the very best etudes ever written.
"The best discourse upon music is silence" - Schumann

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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #3 on: May 12, 2006, 02:15:08 AM
And did you know he recorded Godowskis Chopin Etudes ???? what an amazing guy :P
that doesnt even begin to describe how much of an amazing guy he really is. he is probably the best pianist in the world at this moment. he can play anything, and anything properly. it was one of the best experiences of my life to meet him.
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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #4 on: May 12, 2006, 03:03:28 AM
that doesnt even begin to describe how much of an amazing guy he really is. he is probably the best pianist in the world at this moment. he can play anything, and anything properly. it was one of the best experiences of my life to meet him.

I doubt he is the best in the world at this moment. He has said numerous times that his accuracy is fading with his age.

IMO, Jonathan Powell is better than Hamelin at the moment.
Medtner, man.

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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #5 on: May 12, 2006, 03:25:49 AM
who is jonathan powell?
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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #6 on: May 12, 2006, 04:19:19 AM
IMO, Jonathan Powell is better than Hamelin at the moment.
jonathan powell only has albums out by sorabji, i think. i would like to hear other things played by him before i make such a judgment. btw, hamelin's repertoire is exponentially larger than powell's.
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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #7 on: May 12, 2006, 06:37:37 AM
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I doubt he is the best in the world at this moment. He has said numerous times that his accuracy is fading with his age.

He often states that he is pretty lazy and that he doesn´t like to practice and I think that´s the reason why his technique may be fading.

Technically he is still one of the best of the best but I think that he can do better musically most of the times.

Many dry recordings out there!

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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #8 on: May 12, 2006, 09:15:45 PM
jonathan powell has some non-sorabji albums... but they're extremely unusual.
I also just got this cd and it is truly amazing... Hamelin is by quite a way the best pianist i think at the moment (in terms of personality i think too - he seems extremely nice and modest...)
Yes its a superb set of three etudes... the ands reunited just is awesome and i want to play them! lol...
i dont think his recs are dry... quite the opposite... im a hamelin addict... i got his godowsky/chopin etudes and they are to die for...
he is a genius...
Tom
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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #9 on: May 12, 2006, 10:40:55 PM
i dont think his recs are dry... quite the opposite... im a hamelin addict... i got his godowsky/chopin etudes and they are to die for...
he is a genius...
i too am a massive hamelin addict, and i have probably about 80% of all of his ablums, and he never ceases to amaze me, both for his staggeringly perfect technique and his passion that he puts into his music.  he does have a very nice and modest personality, but it kinda changed to an uneasy tone when i mentioned sorabji to him. perhaps some of you c=that have met him can relate.

back on topic, the godowsky etudes are an essential part of the piano literature and any pianist should check them out. they are also good for developing the left hand.
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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #10 on: May 13, 2006, 10:07:50 AM
mmm.... sometimes i think people say he is emotionally lacking because they can't admitt that he is both technically and emotionally better! he surely is almost a god... up there with horowitz (in fact i think better), Cziffra and even Liszt/Alkan... he makes op 39 sound like a walk through the park... i wonder what music makes him think "thatll be hard"!!! probably not even sorabji, but it seems like a taboo subject with him... if i meet him i think ill keep my mouth shut on that front...
Tom
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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #11 on: May 13, 2006, 11:23:29 AM
On the subject of Marc-Andre Hamelin, I had the pleasure of meeting him on April 29th in San Francisco (as I believe Jre did, according to Ryguillian [Ryan]). He is the most technically endowed pieanist in the world. He can play any of the most difficult pieces in the repertoire with ease and fluidity. He is technically flawless yet his musicality is not lacking either. He has an excelltent taste in interpretation and I believe his recordings are of the finest quality (I too have around 80% of his albums).

A cool piece I recommend listening to if you haven't already is the Alkan Symphony for Solo Piano (39/4-7). I believe the symphony encompasses every facet of pianism, ending with an awesome Finale in E flat minor that is just breathtaking. Hamelin's recording of this piece epitomizes the quality and power of this music.

By the way, any new Hamelin CDs come out?
My favorite piano pieces - Liszt Sonata in B minor, Beethoven's Hammerklavier, Ravel's Gaspard de la Nuit, Alkan's Op. 39 Etudes, Scriabin's Sonata-Fantaisie, Godowsky's Passacaglia in B minor.

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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #12 on: May 13, 2006, 05:43:56 PM
By the way, any new Hamelin CDs come out?
well, im not sure if they are out, but he spoke of the brahms piano quartets at a lecture the night before the concert we attended. that is the next CD that he will release. not sure if it is out yet. also, he will release a CD with the brahms 2nd piano concerto on it and some smaller solo pieces. his next release after that will be alkan's concerto for solo piano, which he said will come out some time nest year.
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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #13 on: May 13, 2006, 07:52:42 PM
A cool piece I recommend listening to if you haven't already is the Alkan Symphony for Solo Piano (39/4-7). I believe the symphony encompasses every facet of pianism, ending with an awesome Finale in E flat minor that is just breathtaking. Hamelin's recording of this piece epitomizes the quality and power of this music.
Hmmm *shakes head* Sorry ^_^;;

 Mind you, I'm merely saying I don't agree (not "You're Wrong!"), I'm currently listening to the piece now for the first time by him. I have heard the recording by Jack Gibbons many times, and no other recording until now, so maybe it's favouritism on this premise. I'll admit, it's very rare I adjust to a new recording unless there is something special about it (usually due to my "favourite pianist" playing it instead, so Hamelin isn't my favourite btw, hehe).
 Hamelin plays it well, most agreably... but... I guess I can't get along with his interpretation, bit jerky compared to what I'm familiar with, plus more rubato and sudden volume changes - - some minutes have passed since I wrote this, I must say the first movement had some sweet ideas further along! Worth giving his recording a few listens :)

 Anyway, Alkan's Trois Grandes Etudes! Phenominal! I do have Hamelin's recording of these, it's the only set I have, and they are amazing! I recently come to love the second and third even more, finally beginning to take in it's musical content, and they really whoop 8)

 Btw, love the Hamelin pic, lol!

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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #14 on: May 14, 2006, 08:33:48 AM
i heard the gibbons first too... but i still prefer hamelin by quite a way... i think gibbon's solo concerto 3rd movement is way too slow (i know its hard but hamelin plays it much better) and i find it too difficult to listen to when i can listen to hamelin instead...
Tom
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Re: Alkan Trois Grandes Etudes op.76
Reply #15 on: May 14, 2006, 08:38:35 AM
i heard the gibbons first too... but i still prefer hamelin by quite a way... i think gibbon's solo concerto 3rd movement is way too slow (i know its hard but hamelin plays it much better) and i find it too difficult to listen to when i can listen to hamelin instead...
Tom
jack gibbons is the type of pianist that plays things just to say that he knows them. his alkan album is some of the driest piano playing ive ever heard. point being, hamelin's recs of the alkan concerto for solo piano, symph, and trois grandes etudes are the best and will continue to be the best.
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