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Which is harder?

Brahms Op 119-4
1 (14.3%)
Sriabin's Op 8-12
6 (85.7%)

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Topic: Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.  (Read 2135 times)

Offline presto agitato

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Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.
on: July 17, 2012, 09:06:09 PM
Hello

I still have doubts...
Could you please tell me your opinion about both pieces?

The masterpiece tell the performer what to do, and not the performer telling the piece what it should be like, or the cocomposer what he ought to have composed.

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Re: Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.
Reply #1 on: July 21, 2012, 01:55:05 AM
Anybody?
The masterpiece tell the performer what to do, and not the performer telling the piece what it should be like, or the cocomposer what he ought to have composed.

--Alfred Brendel--

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Re: Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.
Reply #2 on: July 21, 2012, 12:48:31 PM
not too sure what you mean or are looking for. they are both difficult, for different reasons. i'm wrapping up a 7 month+ affair with the Scriabin and still feel that at performance soon I will still be leaving some money on the table, which i will have to return to some time years from now and collect.

late Brahms scares me silly.  i don't dare touch it till i get some more experience with him under my belt .

i mean if you're free to play either, why can't you just study both?

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Re: Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.
Reply #3 on: July 21, 2012, 04:22:34 PM
Doubts on what? Difficulty? Preference?

For me, the Brahms piece is the more difficult one, and also the one I prefer as a musical composition.

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Re: Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.
Reply #4 on: July 21, 2012, 07:27:56 PM
THese are two very difficult works, yet very different. Many teachers i have studied with say that the scriabin is the piece most pianists are working on when they get tendonitis. It is an etude, and quite simple in structure and to learn, but to put emotion in it with control is very hard.

The Brahms is quite difficult as well, musically i prefer this one, I suppose if you want a large scale work go with the brahms or if you want a showy study go with the scriabin.

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Re: Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.
Reply #5 on: July 22, 2012, 11:58:08 AM
I haven't played the Brahms.

I can create video tutorials on the Scriabin Etude Op8 No12. Currently no one is requesting me to do it. It's performed a lot and should be in everyone's piano repertoire.

When I showed it to a piano teacher, I had the whole thing memorized and the teacher said to do metronome work with it. That was all he said, and only one lesson needed.

If you'd rather go to take piano lessons and paying hundreds of dollars excites you...

I show you how to avoid tension, and how to play it at 100 per crotchet from start to finish.
Perfection itself is imperfection.

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Albeniz Triana
Scriabin Fantaisie Op28
Scriabin All Etudes Op8

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Re: Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.
Reply #6 on: July 22, 2012, 02:47:42 PM
I haven't played the Brahms.

I can create video tutorials on the Scriabin Etude Op8 No12. Currently no one is requesting me to do it. It's performed a lot and should be in everyone's piano repertoire.

When I showed it to a piano teacher, I had the whole thing memorized and the teacher said to do metronome work with it. That was all he said, and only one lesson needed.

If you'd rather go to take piano lessons and paying hundreds of dollars excites you...

I show you how to avoid tension, and how to play it at 100 per crotchet from start to finish.

Could you please do a tutorial ? I am just starting the piece and I don't know where to go with it.

Thanks!

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Re: Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.
Reply #7 on: July 23, 2012, 11:43:06 AM
Sure I'll create a tutorial for it. I'll do it in the form of blogging and video. If anyone else wants the tutorial for Scriabin Etude Op8 No12, send me a PM to request it.
Perfection itself is imperfection.

Currently practicing
Albeniz Triana
Scriabin Fantaisie Op28
Scriabin All Etudes Op8

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Re: Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.
Reply #8 on: July 30, 2012, 09:08:47 PM
More Opinions??
The masterpiece tell the performer what to do, and not the performer telling the piece what it should be like, or the cocomposer what he ought to have composed.

--Alfred Brendel--

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Re: Brahms Op 119-4 or Scriabin's Op 8-12.
Reply #9 on: July 31, 2012, 02:30:42 AM
Do you like, not own a piano or something?  You've been asking about these pieces for weeks.  Why don't you just try them out?  You probably could have already learned the Brahms by now, if you're actually capable of playing pieces like this (most people who are probably aren't spending all their time asking which is more difficult on a piano forum).  And btw, your original thread also listed the Brahms 116/1, which is harder than either of those pieces.
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