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Offline indespair

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Legato scales
on: August 07, 2012, 06:22:34 AM
Opinions on this, please.


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Re: Legato scales
Reply #1 on: August 08, 2012, 12:25:02 AM
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Re: Legato scales
Reply #2 on: August 08, 2012, 10:48:34 AM
The need to consciously move the thumb under means you don't know it moves under - your body can see into the future if you allow it.

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Re: Legato scales
Reply #3 on: August 09, 2012, 07:42:32 AM
no it's not me

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Re: Legato scales
Reply #4 on: August 10, 2012, 02:49:51 AM
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I didn't get through the whole thing, though my first impression was that it was pretty on par - technical instruction is always open to misinterpretation though, and/or bias interpretation.

By that I mean that I have my own understanding of how to do what he's talking about so while I may see his instruction as accurate (atleast mostly, perhaps missing some elements) I may also be equating it to what I know works for me, rather than what he's actually doing, or what he thinks he's doing.. and both his and my idea may be completely different to how a beginner will operate after watching since there has to be a good somewhat subconcious 'feel' more so than does a conscious movement in a particular way.

Maybe he elaborated on that later in the video? I'll watch the whole thing later when I can give it more attention (can't really listen properly right now, can only watch).

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Re: Legato scales
Reply #5 on: August 13, 2012, 05:48:10 PM
It is a great starting point. It contains some elements of thumb over technique.

I would like to add that consider modifying it to a group of 123 followed by a second group of 1234 and not 12345. Do what his video says for both groups, the "forearm rotation", "yaw" and "leading with your elbow". This way you can play scales for more than one octave.

Finally, try and figure out for yourself how to do what he says in reverse for the descending scale since I watched the whole video and it wasn't covered. That's my opinion, Joe.

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Re: Legato scales
Reply #6 on: August 14, 2012, 11:35:23 AM
It is a great starting point. It contains some elements of thumb over technique.

I would like to add that consider modifying it to a group of 123 followed by a second group of 1234 and not 12345. Do what his video says for both groups, the "forearm rotation", "yaw" and "leading with your elbow". This way you can play scales for more than one octave.

Finally, try and figure out for yourself how to do what he says in reverse for the descending scale since I watched the whole video and it wasn't covered. That's my opinion, Joe.

Thank you. I tried 123 then 1234 then repeat the same thing the very first time I tried it, it seemed more reasonable, I just don't know why the guy in the video just stopped at 12345. It works pretty well though. I haven't yet perfected descending with the same technique in reverse. I do it my own way.
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