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Will the world see another Romantic Era? (Read 3854 times)

Offline ajspiano

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #50 on: August 23, 2012, 11:40:40 PM »

The guy who said Chopin not that great....WOW.


Maybe this isn't you're aim (or even a problem you have), but if you're ever going to be any good in your own right you're going to have to pull Chopin down off that pedestal you've built for him and start believing that you are capable of producing world class music..  not that's better than Chopin, but definitely that is as good as Chopin - even if you don't ever actually make it that far.

Have respect for them, but excessive worship is not good for you.

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I'm not sure what your position is so I'm not sure how easily you'd be able to have a concert, but it's something to keep in mind.
Perhaps, though I'm far more dedicated to teaching than to my own personal performing.

I probably could put on successful concerts if I choose the right locations and put in some SERIOUS work preparing and maintaining a program to a high standard. I just do not put in the amount of hours that a concert pianist needs to.

Regional touring would probably work here in Australia since those places aren't going to get well known overseas pianists visiting. I do have a friend that has taken that route and gets to work with local orchestras for concertos and such, - is pretty cool, but at the same time she has a bit of an "oh my god this is so much work  :-\" kind of attitude to major performance projects.

Trying to just launch into performing solo recitals in decent venues in a bigger city strikes me as a great way to burn money - long road.

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #51 on: August 23, 2012, 11:42:58 PM »
Not allowed to have preferences? I recognize him as a very talented composer, but I personally don't like most of his output all that much.

Ah, hence-you specified and I cannot argue with preference :)
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #52 on: August 24, 2012, 12:17:25 AM »
Not allowed to have preferences? I recognize him as a very talented composer, but I personally don't like most of his output all that much.

LOL, you could be quoting George Sand.  ;D
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #53 on: August 24, 2012, 12:36:17 AM »


 excessive worship is not good for you.


Unless if it's Valentina Lisitsa, Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, or Carl Vine of course!
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #54 on: August 24, 2012, 01:19:15 AM »
Unless if it's Valentina Lisitsa, Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, or Carl Vine of course!


So what should I check out from Vine besides his 1st sonata? I've listened to it several times and really liked it, but I don't know what else to look into...

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #55 on: August 24, 2012, 01:52:05 AM »
So what should I check out from Vine besides his 1st sonata? I've listened to it several times and really liked it, but I don't know what else to look into...

List and links here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Vine

I'd recommend the symphonies and quartets for starters.
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #56 on: August 24, 2012, 01:53:02 AM »
I don't write music like Chopin and I don't really try to. I am studying classical to progress my technique for my jazz studies. I (worship?) Chopin because I am a girl and he is(was??) a boy and I find his music incredibly sensual. Plus he was young. I can't help that I am excited about his music. It is a good thing! Perhaps some day I will mature beyond my particular interests than what I am currently and will study in the future. I do not know how to compose Romantic classical music, unfortunately. But would love to hear some of yours!
"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #57 on: August 24, 2012, 02:26:56 AM »
So what should I check out from Vine besides his 1st sonata? I've listened to it several times and really liked it, but I don't know what else to look into...

1st piano concerto

His second piano sonata  (Not on youtube but I'll see if I can get you a copy of the one I bought from itunes)

and his bageledetts.  However you spell it...
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #58 on: August 24, 2012, 02:38:43 AM »
I don't write music like Chopin and I don't really try to. I am studying classical to progress my technique for my jazz studies.
I personally found the hours and hours I spent as a teenager playing arpeggios and scale patterns and improvisations over ii-V-I progressions to be pretty beneficial technically, and as far as composition too.. all the jazz harmonization is pretty good that way, exploring the limits of key harmonically...

Along with the other ear stuff of course (transcription etc.)..  I found pretty much all playing much more natural in jazz, which then lead it back into classical the deeper I got into it.

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #59 on: August 24, 2012, 03:15:49 AM »
Sure, I mostly get by with aural stuff. The classical (I will call it "training") helps bring out some expression that I look for. Harmonies have to be discovered (in my case) because I just cannot calculate the piano in written form like (forgive my lack of more examples, Beethoven) Once my hearing starts going, I hope I know what to do by then.

"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #60 on: August 24, 2012, 03:23:28 AM »
and his bageledetts.  However you spell it...

 ;D

Bagatelles
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #61 on: August 24, 2012, 03:36:54 AM »
Bagatelles

I always think of bread when I see that word

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #62 on: August 24, 2012, 03:46:30 AM »
I always think of bread when I see that word

Haha, yeah. Me too. Sort of a cross between a Bagel and a Baguette.

Mmmmmmmmmmm, lunch beckons......
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #63 on: August 24, 2012, 03:49:07 AM »
Mmmmmmmmmmm, lunch beckons......

weirdass australians, eating lunch at 11pm...I'll never understand you hopelessly backwards people

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #64 on: August 24, 2012, 03:52:34 AM »
weirdass australians, eating lunch at 11pm...I'll never understand you hopelessly backwards people
Even weirder, I just ate about 7 birdseye chillis for lunch. Feeling the burn.

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #65 on: August 24, 2012, 03:56:42 AM »
weirdass australians, eating lunch at 11pm...I'll never understand you hopelessly backwards people

We're not backwards, we're upside down.  Hanging on makes you hungry.  ;D
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #66 on: August 24, 2012, 03:57:26 AM »
Aren't Americans the usual backwards ones?
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #67 on: August 24, 2012, 04:01:29 AM »
Aren't Americans the usual backwards ones?

In what way? People like to bring that up, cause we're apparently all hicks and fat, but we don't mind too much, because we're objectively the best. When you're on top, you gotta accept a little criticism, right?

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #68 on: August 24, 2012, 04:03:28 AM »
feck.
wrong thread.

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #69 on: August 24, 2012, 04:14:32 AM »
feck.
wrong thread.

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Nice defence of our national honour.  ;D
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #70 on: August 24, 2012, 04:17:38 AM »
Nice defence of our national honour.  ;D

Hey, you don't have to type upside down just so the rest of us can read it. We'll just turn our heads

It's okay to type like this

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #71 on: August 24, 2012, 04:22:33 AM »
It's okay to type like this

Back to font?

Edit: FRONT!!!
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #72 on: August 24, 2012, 04:27:10 AM »
Nice defence of our national honour.  ;D

I try. - as hard as our Olympic swimmers.

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #73 on: August 24, 2012, 11:18:27 AM »
In what way? People like to bring that up, cause we're apparently all hicks and fat, but we don't mind too much, because we're objectively the best. When you're on top, you gotta accept a little criticism, right?

No I'm saying that everyone thinks that we're the backwards ones.
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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #74 on: August 24, 2012, 11:30:15 AM »
I try. - as hard as our Olympic swimmers.

aren't they all 16 yr old girls?

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #75 on: August 24, 2012, 03:50:03 PM »
No I'm saying that everyone thinks that we're the backwards ones.

Jealousy ;)

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Re: Will the world see another Romantic Era?
«Reply #76 on: August 24, 2012, 03:56:06 PM »

It's okay to type like this



Can you play the piano backwards as well?  That would be really cool!

I still remember when heavy metal LPs were played backwards to find satanic messages. I wonder what we would find on the Copin etudes? Could someone demonstrate?  ;D