Rachmaninoff etudes are misleading.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Nobody knows the name of any freaking piece!  Why do they all have multiple names?  And the Rachmaninoff is the ONLY composer with this problem!  The ONLY one!

I'm looking at Rachmaninoff etude Op. 33 no. # right now because even my edition is messed up!

It goes like,

Op. 33 No. 7

Op. 33 No. 8

(No. 5)


Make up your freaking mind! Which No. Is it?  7, 8, or 5!  They can't be all three!  You have to choose one number kid!

And that's not The only piece with that ambiguity in my edition either!  And it's not only my edition, I see it in other books what the heck?!  And even when I search a piece on YouTube, I get a bunch of different pieces!

*searching Rach etude Op. 33 No. 8*

Me:  Hmmm this looks like a good recording

*reads comments*

Rachmaninoff_forever:  isn't this Rach etude 39 No. 3?

J Menz:  nah, this is Rach etude 33 No. 1
 
Ajspiano:  no wait this is Rach etude Op. 23 No. 4

Scherzo123:  Ajs, Rach never composed any etudes in Op 23!  This is obviously Rachmaninoff prelude Op. 16 No. 4

Davidjosepha:  no guys, you got this all wrong.  This is Rachmaninoff sonata 3 Op. 68 No. 9!

Scriabin_forever:  dude, Rachmaninoff never had anything in Op. 68!  And the only sonata in Op. 68 No. 9 is Sciabin's 9th sonata!  This is obviously Rachmaninoff Grand Paganini etudes S. 141 No. 3.

Bach_Forever:  look guys, this is clearly Rachmaninoff Goldberg variations.  Not even debatable.

Liszt forever:  hey Scriabin kid, that's La Campanella!  And Bach kid, the Goldberg variations are by Bach!  This is obviously Carl Vine sonata 2!

Rachmaninoff_forever:  oh so now this isn't by Rachmaninoff huh?!  

Liszt forever:  no it's not!  It's by Carl vine!  Wanna fight about it?!

*a YouTube argument starts*


Me:  sigh...  What's with these YouTube comments?!  Everyone's trolling on every video!  But one thing is for sure; I still don't know one thing...

   What the freaking heck is the name of this piece???!!!

[ktack]

which piece??

[rachmaninoff_forever]

which piece??

I think it's Rach etude Op. 33 No. 8.  That's what Bach Rach told me. But when I looked at the score, it had three freaking different names!

And that's not the only etude!  That's for almost every single Rach etude!  So I'm talking about the Rach etudes as a whole.  Why are they so misleading?

[scherzo123]

Nobody knows the name of any freaking piece!  Why do they all have multiple names?

I'm looking at Rachmaninoff etude Op. 33 no. # right now because even my edition is messed up!

It goes like,

Op. 33 No. 7

Op. 33 No. 8

(No. 5)


Make up your freaking mind! Which No. Is it?  7, 8, or 5!  They can't be all three!  You have to choose one number kid!

And that's not The only piece with that ambiguity in my edition either!  And it's not only my edition, I see it in other books what the heck?!  And even when I search a piece on YouTube, I get a bunch of different pieces!

*searching Rach etude Op. 33 No. 8*

Me:  Hmmm this looks like a good recording

*reads comments*

Rachmaninoff_forever:  isn't this Rach etude 39 No. 3?

J Menz:  nah, this is Rach etude 33 No. 1
 
Ajspiano:  no wait this is Rach etude Op. 23 No. 4

Scherzo123:  Ajs, Rach never composed any etudes in Op 23!  This is obviously Rachmaninoff prelude Op. 16 No. 4

Davidjosepha:  no guys, you got this all wrong.  This is Rachmaninoff sonata 3 Op. 68 No. 9!

Scriabin_forever:  dude, Rachmaninoff never had anything in Op. 68!  And the only sonata in Op. 68 No. 9 is Sciabin's 9th sonata!  This is obviously Rachmaninoff Grand Paganini etudes S. 141 No. 3.

Bach_Forever:  look guys, this is clearly Rachmaninoff Goldberg variations.  Not even debatable.

Liszt forever:  hey Scriabin kid, that's La Campanella!  And Bach kid, the Goldberg variations are by Bach!  This is obviously Carl Vine sonata 2!

Rachmaninoff_forever:  oh so now this isn't by Rachmaninoff huh?!  

Liszt forever:  no it's not!  It's by Carl vine!  Wanna fight about it?!

*a YouTube argument starts*


Me:  sigh...  What's with these YouTube comments?!  Everyone's trolling on every video!  But one thing is for sure; I still don't know one thing...

   What the freaking heck is the name of this piece???!!!

                                                                                                                      ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I laughed.

[ktack]

Becuase at first, op. 39 no. 6 was in the op. 33 group. it was originally op. 33 no. 4 Rachmaninoff then took it out of op. 33 and put it in op. 39. ever since any etude op. 33 no. 4 and above have either been one or another number above. for example D Minor in op. 33 was originally no. 5 but some decide to put it as no. 4.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Becuase at first, op. 39 no. 6 was in the op. 33 group. it was originally op. 33 no. 4 Rachmaninoff then took it out of op. 33 and put it in op. 39. ever since any etude op. 33 no. 4 and above have either been one or another number above. for example D Minor in op. 33 was originally no. 5 but some decide to put it as no. 4.

Look Rachmaninoff...  You ARE NOT Scriabin!  So stop pretending to be like him!  You're not crazy, so don't act like it!  Don't do all these stupid things with your opus numbers.  Keep them where they are!  Your decision on what Opus and numbers you put pieces in are FINAL!  No second chances kid! 

It's like you take a math test.  You don't finish the test, turn it in, look at your notes again, and then ask for the test back to ask if you can change an answer!  That's not how life works!  Don't publish your works unless you're absolutely sure you don't want to make any more changes!

Jeez...

[davidjosepha]

which piece??

I think I woke my parents up laughing at this.



Also, Rach, I liked your madeup dialogue. You may have a future as a playwright

[rachmaninoff_forever]

You may have a future as a playwright

Playwright/pianist? 

Sounds like a good job to me...   

[outin]

Playwright/pianist? 

Sounds like a good job to me...   

Don't forget composing!

Or you could of course write a play about a beautiful young pianist struggling in the big bad world. A perfect role for Valentina!

Maybe you should write in Russian though, due to the heavy accent.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Don't forget composing!

Or you could of course write a play about a beautiful young pianist struggling in the big bad world. A perfect role for Valentina!

Maybe you should write in Russian though, due to the heavy accent.

Time to learn Russian!

[j_menz]

J Menz:  nah, this is Rach etude 33 No. 1

How did I get involved? I was asleep at the time. And that's not what I would have said! 

Actually, Rachmaninoff is not alone. Lots of composers Op. numbers are a complete dogs breakfast. That's why we have K, D, S etc numbers.

I personally think the composers stuff them up just so that some future scholar spots a PhD in the offing and keeps their name alive.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

How did I get involved? I was asleep at the time. And that's not what I would have said! 

Actually, Rachmaninoff is not alone. Lots of composers Op. numbers are a complete dogs breakfast. That's why we have K, D, S etc numbers.

I personally think the composers stuff them up just so that some future scholar spots a PhD in the offing and keeps their name alive.

These guys need to be more like Carl Vine.  No ambiguity in his music at all!

[j_menz]

These guys need to be more like Carl Vine.  No ambiguity in his music at all!

Haha. Give him time. He already has two versions of his fourth Symphony.