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Offline j_menz

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #50 on: September 07, 2012, 01:41:09 AM
If you like Telemann, then you're the one who's obviously been putting something in his water.  Is it Valium?  Without Telemann, Bach would not have existed as we know him.  Bach had very, very little impact on music before Mendelssohn began popularizing him, and it wasn't until toward the last third of the Romantic Era that he was well-known.  His impact on music has been quite minimal; by the time he was well-known enough, people were writing music that has no use of Bach.  What is so hard to understand?

Mozart, Beethoven and Chopin were all influenced by Bach. Mozart and Beethoven admittedly later in their careers, but that is, after all, when they did their most interesting work. Still, if you ignore those.....  ::)
"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #51 on: September 07, 2012, 10:23:55 AM
If you like Telemann, then you're the one who's obviously been putting something in his water.  Is it Valium?  Without Telemann, Bach would not have existed as we know him.  Bach had very, very little impact on music before Mendelssohn began popularizing him, and it wasn't until toward the last third of the Romantic Era that he was well-known.  His impact on music has been quite minimal; by the time he was well-known enough, people were writing music that has no use of Bach.  What is so hard to understand?
I am sorry but you are way of. By the way, it does not surprise me that you did not get what I meant with "with your way of reasoning, why not put Jesus and God himself on the list?".. You say that without Telemann, Bach would not have existed as we KNOW him, I say, if Bach did not believe in Jesus and God, he wouldn't have existed as we know him. It's just pathetic to say that Telemann is more important than Bach because he influenced Bach. I mean, if you think Telemann is so important, why do you even bring Bach up? Bach created a new language, and inspired many of the greatest composers after him. Beethoven set up new rules, and he was at such a higher level of artistry than all others, that it was almost impossible not to be influenced by him.

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #52 on: September 22, 2012, 03:10:10 AM
I only wandered into this site looking for a score for the intermezzo op. 118 number 6. However, I was irresistably drawn to the prospect of making a pointless list, so here it is (in no particular order):

Byrd, Bach, Wagner, Saint-Saens, Hindemith, Haydn, Purcell, Beethoven, Brahms, Stanford.

Honorable mentions go to Scriabin, Chausson, Bruckner, Rameau, Strauss (R), Langlais, Ockeghem, Schubert, Gibbons and (running out of space here) Leos Frederick-Valentine von Vaughn-Lambert.

And yes, I could live without mozart.

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #53 on: September 22, 2012, 10:10:57 AM

And yes, I could live without mozart.

Didn't somebody say that life is too short to waste on Mozart?

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #54 on: September 22, 2012, 10:38:39 AM
Didn't somebody say that life is too short to waste on Mozart?

Don't know who said it, but I couldn't agree more :)

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #55 on: September 22, 2012, 04:26:33 PM
1 - Bach
2 - Mozart
3 - Beethoven
4 - Schumann
5 - Schubert
6 - Brahms
7 - Wagner
8 - Debussy
9 - Stravinsky
10 - Schoenberg

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #56 on: September 25, 2012, 06:01:44 PM
Josquin
Palestrina
William Byrd
Monteverdi
Bach
Mozart
Haydn
Chopin
Berg
Bartok

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #57 on: January 13, 2024, 01:46:15 AM
Don't really have a very obscure list, I mean, I've heard of other composers but these guys are popular for a reason.

1. Bach
2. Schubert
3. Mozart
4. Debussy
5. Beethoven
6. Schumann
7. Bruckner
8. Mahler
9. Cramer
10. Brahms
last 3 schubert sonatas and piano trios are something else

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #58 on: January 13, 2024, 02:53:52 AM
Pretty basic composers for me.  Beethoven and Bach are pretty much a tie. 
1. Beethoven
2. Bach
3. Brahms
4. Wagner
5. Chopin
6. Cesar Franck
7. Schumann
8. Stravinsky
9. Josquin des Prez and Palestrina
10. Liszt - Let's not forget is monumental piano sonata!
11. Schubert (snuck this in)
12. Debussy (snuck this in)
13. Scarlatti (snuck this in)

Also a mention of the following works that I love:
Ives - Symphony #3
Bartok - Concerto for orchestra
Berg - Lulu opera and violin concerto
Villa-Lobos - Guitar concerto


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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #59 on: January 13, 2024, 02:58:50 AM
Don't really have a very obscure list, I mean, I've heard of other composers but these guys are popular for a reason.
9. Cramer

I am mostly familiar with Cramer from the Diabelli Variations by Beethoven.  Cramer was the only contemporary pianist that Beethoven admired.  The 23rd Diabelli is a parody on Cramer's Pianoforte-method - specifically the very first study.  I still laugh every time I hear this variation.

For me, Beethoven and Stravinsky are the 2 great composers with the greatest sense of humor expressed in their music.

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #60 on: January 13, 2024, 03:19:27 AM
This piece got me into Cramer. It has Mozart-like ideas but also has an original mold - not too innovative but dropping in Romantic aspects here and there. Really amazing stuff.

last 3 schubert sonatas and piano trios are something else

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #61 on: January 13, 2024, 03:21:13 AM
Haha you "snuck in" many composers! I was also considering putting Ravel, Copland, or Gershwin in there but decided Brahms earned a higher spot.
last 3 schubert sonatas and piano trios are something else

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #62 on: January 13, 2024, 03:33:07 AM
This piece got me into Cramer. It has Mozart-like ideas but also has an original mold - not too innovative but dropping in Romantic aspects here and there. Really amazing stuff.



Listening to this as I type. Instantly appealing.  Thanks!

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #63 on: January 13, 2024, 03:35:38 AM
Haha you "snuck in" many composers! I was also considering putting Ravel, Copland, or Gershwin in there but decided Brahms earned a higher spot.

Haha - so you sneak it in now.  I would put Ravel in my top 15.  Absolutely love his piano concerto for LH alone and some of his solo piano music and his string quartet.

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Re: Top 10 Composers (pointless list time!)
Reply #64 on: January 13, 2024, 01:27:18 PM
1. Beethoven
2. Bach
3. Monteverdi
4. Byrd
5. Mozart
6. Brahms
7. Schubert
8. Handel
9. Debussy
10. Stravinsky

The order varies a lot depending on my mood.
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