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on: September 28, 2012, 05:01:25 PM
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Reply #1 on: September 28, 2012, 08:47:16 PM
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Re: Chord progression question?
Reply #2 on: September 28, 2012, 11:50:02 PM
Also playing the chord?  Sticking with the harmony for sure.  Playing a melody or something melodic that fits with the harmony?

Or nothing. It doesn't have to do anything.

It sounds like you're asking about jazz though. Possibly.

A lot of times the chord is divided up between both hands. 
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Reply #3 on: September 29, 2012, 02:03:02 AM
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Re: Chord progression question?
Reply #4 on: September 29, 2012, 03:34:41 AM
In the first link above, the melody notes are the same as the chord notes.  She's just playing the bass note in the left hand.  RH melody fills out the other notes of the chord.  There's no ambigiuty.  It's I IV V.

She's just playing traids.  Not even seventh chords.  She's starting on B in the RH.  It would sound more stilted if you start on G.

(That's some horrible fingerings on these videos.  The presenter is keeping their hands out of the way to display the keys more, but.... That second video.  Ouch.  Don't use 1 2 3 on a d minor triad.  Use 1 3 5 or 1 2 4 depending on what you're going to.  Or use 1 2 3 if there's something like a d higher -- 1 2 3 5.)

Video 2 -- His fingering sucks. 1 2 3 like that on every triad?  No.  Voicing sucks too -- All root position triads (and parallel fifths), but it is easier to understand when it's voiced like that.  Hmm... Looks like the guy has played piano before.  I don't understand why he would use a crappy fingering like that.  Ooo... a secret... They're making that too complicated.  Just learn your major scales.  How about learn major scales, engrain that, learn minor scales, engrain that, and then don't think about it anymore?  The voicing in the second video could be improved, could be smoother, but this guy is keeping it simple for understanding.  Less mental work if it's all in root position.


Fudge... third video's got some horrible fingerings!  Oh man... His joint are bending the wrong way. He needs an arch.  These videos are horrible for a basic, decent hand position and fingering.  (And the lovely background on the third video.)  Those joints... Makes me cringe.  Can't put weight on them.  Less control.

The third video has more complicated harmony.  He's splitting it up between the hands.  And it's written out in a way that's easier to understand.    He's just playing chord in the third video.  Bass notes in LH, fleshing out the chord with the right hand.


I'm still not quite following.  Everything looks straightforward in these videos.  You don't have to play all the notes of the chord at the same tonight.  You can play the bass note and fill out the rest in the next few moments.  The brain will hear squish them together and hear harmony.

(Hmm... I'm not a gospel pianist, but that 7 3 6 is still II V I in minor.  Just with extended harmonies.  He's playing I IV V in C and then II V I in a.)
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Reply #5 on: September 29, 2012, 05:26:25 AM
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Re: Chord progression question?
Reply #6 on: September 29, 2012, 09:08:54 AM
Well, I know the videos explanations are horrible.

I also understand where you coming from since you broke it down as you did, I appreciate it.

So your saying something like this:

LH: Bass notes of lets say: Cmaj - I [C and G/ Notes
RH: I - Cmaj

from the I - Cmaj, do I play a transition note to get to IV - Fmaj
Run or fill because in the videos when they were going from chord to chord
from what I've seen or noticed they hit a few notes before going from I to IV
or the next chord something like this if I can explain it visually:

I(random note) to IV(random note) to V


And by the way I am taking in all knowledge you giving me, I appreciate it!

Playing C chord, F chord and G chords is noting more than the cadence of C maj. The extra notes for melody ( say) are within the chord scales. That's all that's going on, very standard set.

If you wanted to modulate out of that pattern to end up changing keys you could add in a 7th and run up or down the keyboard from there to the next key you want to be in ( which is what I think you had in the back of your mind). Sometimes you may need a couple of modulations to get there. Anyway, that's not what's happening here.
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Reply #7 on: September 29, 2012, 03:06:32 PM
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