Medtner op.20 no.1. Please help!!!

[schubertiad]

I am playing this wonderful Skazki by Medtner, but in bar 8 of the Russian edition I am using (from IMSLP) the notes are different to most of the recordings I have heard. Most people seem to make the passage analogous with the return of the theme near the end (which I prefer) but I don't want to change this until I'm sure this is what he actually wrote!

Thanks in advance,


Ben

[faulty_damper]

What are you talking about?  It's played exactly as written.  Read carefully!

[schubertiad]

When I said bar 8 I counted the upbeat as bar one. I probably should have said bar 7. Anyway, according to my score:

https://conquest.imslp.info/files/imglnks/usimg/a/a6/IMSLP06917-Medtner_2tales_op20.pdf

the right hand top voice plays a tied D flat on the second half of beat 3, whereas in most recordings (including that of Medtner himself), it is played as straight quavers C, C, D.

Very confusing in writing, but I don't know how to embed images. Hopefully you know what I'm getting at!

Ben

[49410enrique]

not sure i get what you're trying to describe ( i found the bar and beat you mentioned but lose your description after that.).

here's a different edition. it's slightly different than the "Russian" one you linked but not in the spot you mentioned (i.e indications, some subtle slur placement, and voicing indications, etc).

[schubertiad]

Sorry about the confusing description. Even I can't understand it, and I wrote the thing!

But anyway, the edition you sent is different to mine, and in line with the recordings, so it's all been cleared up. Thanks!

[galltywenallt]

Thank you for drawing my attention to this misprint in the 1959 Collected Edition, which I'd missed when I compiled the variorum of editions on www.medtner.org.uk . The original edition has C, as does the Soviet re-engraving of 1923 and the 1941 New York edition.

There are other errors in the Collected Edition, though in general it's the best one to use. If you tackle Op 20 no 2, be aware that in bar 51 the LH should read Eb not E. In this case, most pianists (but not Medtner) incorrectly play E natural. This always surprises me as Eb makes more sense harmonically and the phrase is echoed in the RH in the following bar.

Chris Crocker

[faulty_damper]

You mean bar 49?  Eb-D-A-F#?

[galltywenallt]

No, bar 51.  LH should be C natural - A - F# - Eb - D.  Note I'm talking about Op 20/2 not 20/1.

[faulty_damper]

Thank you for noting the correction.  I've marked it in my score.
(I should have read carefully and thought you were referring to the same piece.)