Ear training. What are some good methods to train relative pitch?

[musicioso]

Hallo guys

Here i am again. I need some advise on how to train relative pitch. There are some softwares, but i read on this forum that those are not really for training but just for testing. So what should i do?

Any suggestion/advise is most welcome. Thanks in advance

[faulty_damper]

Huh?  I'm a bit confused.  Isn't relative pitch... relative?  So it wouldn't matter what pitch they are.

Do you mean identifying intervals?

[musicioso]

Huh?  I'm a bit confused.  Isn't relative pitch... relative?  So it wouldn't matter what pitch they are.

Do you mean identifying intervals?

LOL sorry!!

Yes, thats what i mean, identifying intervals.

[keypeg]

One thing that his always bothered me when reading about ear training in piano forums is that it always seems to be passive.  By that I mean that you listen to something produced somehow, and identify it.  You do not try to create the sound.  Otoh, if you get into creating sound, you are also confronted by the fact that pianists are not trained as singers, and they don't play an instrument that they need to tune.  I developed my relative pitch and a certain degree of "absolute" pitch by attempting to produce the sounds by singing, and checking with a piano.  That is the opposite of hearing two notes played on a piano, and giving the name of the interval.

[ajspiano]

Thats a good point, keypeg. For me I suspect that the experience of playing guitar and having to tune it all the time was significant in my ears development..

..I've also done plenty of singing, despite thinking I'm pretty terrible at it - but that opinion of myself is a result of me having a discerning ear.

I could probably devise a way to learn relative pitch (practice ideas etc., though to be fair, the way I did it was just to rely on my ear to figure out how to play things.. rather than try to develop ear skills in isolation from playing.

..pick an easy piece, not too many notes, simple harmony..  so anything grade 1 or lower. Listen to it over and over and start trying to figure it out by ear - which will initially be by trial and error for the first note..  but if you can figure out the first note, then identify whether the next note is higher or lower you're already using relative pitch.. all you need do is refine it.

[musicioso]

ajspiano, keypeg and also faulty_damper

Than you for your reply, i really appreciate it 

[shazeelawan]

Maybe you could try listening to songs and playing them back... if you know what the notes are,you can know the intervals,right? My teacher suggested playing chord progressions,focusing on how they sound,so that you're more familiar with them. Then maybe you can find a song with similar chords and try transcribing it by ear. Fix the position of the first note and take note of all the chord changes,then work from there. The music program I go to includes aural training,and they do something like this; the teacher plays it,then you play it back.Listen actively to all the notes. Good luck!

[musicioso]

Maybe you could try listening to songs and playing them back... if you know what the notes are,you can know the intervals,right? My teacher suggested playing chord progressions,focusing on how they sound,so that you're more familiar with them. Then maybe you can find a song with similar chords and try transcribing it by ear. Fix the position of the first note and take note of all the chord changes,then work from there. The music program I go to includes aural training,and they do something like this; the teacher plays it,then you play it back.Listen actively to all the notes. Good luck!

Thanks a lot for your reply.

Thats sounds good to me, i will give it a try.

Salute!