Pieces that people seem to love, but actually suck

[asuhayda]

Ooooooh... this could start some sh&t!!!   

I'll start... ohhhh...

La Campanella

[49410enrique]

bobby schumann's...most.

honorable mention
sinding - rustle of spring
luddy v's - fur elise

[asuhayda]

schumann. most.

I thought I was the only one!

[redbaron]

Schumann - everything expect the Piano Concerto and the Eintritt from Waldszenen
Mozart - most of his piano works apart from the D minor Fantasy and K457
Chopin - Nocturne Op 9 No 2, not a bad piece but I just don't see why it's the most popular Nocturne
Debussy - Claire de Lune, again by no means a bad piece but he wrote many better things

[redbaron]

I thought I was the only one!

Definitely not

[asuhayda]

Mozart - most of his piano works apart from the D minor Fantasy and K457

That's right everyone.. HE SAID IT!! IT'S BEEN SAID!!!

[outin]

That's right everyone.. HE SAID IT!! IT'S BEEN SAID!!!

Now I am intrigued...I should listen to those two...I might have been wrong to think that everything by him sucks...

[scherzo123]

OMG...this thread...

[asuhayda]

OMG...this thread...

You should get that nystagmus checked out... could hurt your sight reading. 

[nanabush]

I can't say it sucks... but I'm not really fond of Mozart's piano music.  Everyone drools over it, but I find it kinda lame to listen to!

Schumann's great!  What are people saying?!  Again, he has some bad works (as do all composers!), but his Fantasy, the song cycles, and the piano concerto are amazing!  Carnavale people!!

[zezhyrule]

I was gonna say 4'33, but I heard an amazing performance of it last weekend (transcription for string quartet) and now I love the work.

[j_menz]

WARNING: What you post in this thread will say far more about your own inadequacies than those of any composer or particular piece of music.

There. My job is done.

[49410enrique]

WARNING: What you post in this thread will say far more about your own inadequacies than those of any composer or particular piece of music.

There. My job is done.

yep. i do indeed have a severe lack of ability to appreciate boring music. i have tried to fix it but it might just be an inadequacy i will not be able to rid myslef of. try as might.

[perprocrastinate]

This may be sooo biased, but I'm just going to say it.

Chopin's Revolutionary Etude, Op 10/12.

I regret putting so much time in learning it in the first place. Definitely not worth the effort. I was so sick of hearing it that I just threw it away a couple months ago. I haven't thought of it until now.

It's nice to hear at first, since it's so exciting and explosive, but after practicing it (or any other piece for that matter) for too long, it just loses its spark.

Eh, maybe that spark will come back some day. It is what drew me into learning the piano in the first place.

And j_menz, I don't think I need to worry about that. Everyone knows that I'm pretty incompetent overall already. 

[asuhayda]

WARNING: What you post in this thread will say far more about your own inadequacies than those of any composer or particular piece of music.

There. My job is done.

Does that count for your warning as well?

[j_menz]

yep. i do indeed have a severe lack of ability to appreciate boring music. i have tried to fix it but it might just be an inadequacy i will not be able to rid myslef of. try as might.

Bobby boring? Bah!

[j_menz]

Does that count for your warning as well?

Inevitably.

[asuhayda]

ya.. it sucks doesn't it.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Rachmaninoff prelude, Op. 3 No. 2

BEETHOVEN'S MOONLIGHT SONATA!!!

[asuhayda]

Rachmaninoff prelude, Op. 3 No. 2

BEETHOVEN'S MOONLIGHT SONATA!!!

WHAAAAAAAAAAAT!?!?

[rachmaninoff_forever]

WHAAAAAAAAAAAT!?!?

I also agree with you on La Campanella and when someone else said the Op 10 No 12 Chopin etude.

[david456103]

haha la campanella was the first to pop into my mind...such a bad performance piece and not that great
also i would say fur elise(never really understood why it was so famous)

[asuhayda]

haha la campanella was the first to pop into my mind...such a bad performance piece and not that great
also i would say fur elise(never really understood why it was so famous)

I concur

I also agree with you on La Campanella and when someone else said the Op 10 No 12 Chopin etude.

I too concur

[j_menz]

Santa is bringing you all one of these for Christmas:

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Santa is bringing you all one of these for Christmas:

Why the heck did you copy my signature?!?!!

[perprocrastinate]

I could have sworn that there was no period at the end.

[chopin2015]

Why the heck did you copy my signature?!?!!

hahah
 well...I will say I do not enjoy Mozart, but I disagree about the Beethoven, everything by Beethoven RULES!!! I forgot I am supposed to have Beethoven Fridays when I am not working on a piece by him already. Who wants to join? I can't think of anything else I do not enjoy at least a little bit. There's just not enough sorrow in Mozart's music.

[perprocrastinate]

Rachmaninoff prelude, Op. 3 No. 2

Now you've made me feel bad for starting to learn this prelude. I've recently discovered how awesome Rachmaninoff's music is, and this is one of his more accessible works.

Plus it's a great anger release piece. 

[rachmaninoff_forever]

hahah
 well...I will say I do not enjoy Mozart, but I disagree about the Beethoven, everything by Beethoven RULES!!! I forgot I am supposed to have Beethoven Fridays when I am not working on a piece by him already. Who wants to join? I can't think of anything else I do not enjoy at least a little bit. There's just not enough sorrow in Mozart's music.

I like Beethoven, I just absolutely DESPISE the moonlight sonata, and fur Elise.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Now you've made me feel bad for starting to learn this prelude. I've recently discovered how awesome Rachmaninoff's music is, and this is one of his more accessible works.

Plus it's a great anger release piece. 

There's a kid in my music theory class who plays this a lot and it PISSES ME OFF!!!

[perprocrastinate]

There's a kid in my music theory class who plays this a lot and it PISSES ME OFF!!!

So is it because of that you hate it, or did you hate it in the first place?

By the way, what's your opinion on the Prelude Op. 23/5 in G minor?

[chopin2015]

I like Beethoven, I just absolutely DESPISE the moonlight sonata, and fur Elise.

But but...what about the 3rd movement? It's so awesome!

[rachmaninoff_forever]

So is it because of that you hate it, or did you hate it in the first place?

By the way, what's your opinion on the Prelude Op. 23/5 in G minor?

I hated Op. 3 No. 2 in the first place.

Op. 23 No. 5, I guess I'm OKAY with it.

Op. 23 No. 2 I HATE.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

But but...what about the 3rd movement? It's so awesome!

I don't like any of the movements of it.  

Appassionata is where it's at!   

[outin]

Almost every Beethoven sonata actually.
But that tells quite a lot about my inadequacy, since to be honest I don't know which ones people seem to love, except the couple of the most obvious like the above mentioned, Pathétique (doesn't the name say it all?) and Appassionata.

I too lack the ability to appreciate boring music...

Can we just agree that whatever is said in this thread will stay in it and never mentioned in again in another?

[perprocrastinate]

But but...what about the 3rd movement? It's so awesome!

The repetition. Oh god. I excuse Chopin from this just because the beautiful melodies he creates more than makes up for it.

I don't like any of the movements of it. 

Appassionata is where it's at!   

Aw, you edited it. I was about to make a racist comment while picturing Chris from Everybody Hates Chris as the narrator of your post. Made me giggle a little. Lol.

[chopin2015]

The repetition. Oh god. I excuse Chopin from this just because the beautiful melodies he creates more than makes up for it.

Aw, you edited it. I was about to make a racist comment while picturing Chris from Everybody Hates Chris as the narrator of your post. Made me giggle a little. Lol.

Your wrist can't handle it?

[rachmaninoff_forever]

Aw, you edited it. I was about to make a racist comment while picturing Chris from Everybody Hates Chris as the narrator of your post. Made me giggle a little. Lol.

Racist?  That's not racist at all.

I changed the original post because I thought the new one sounded better.

[outin]

The repetition. Oh god. I excuse Chopin from this just because the beautiful melodies he creates more than makes up for it.

Now why would poor Fred be responsible for that  

[perprocrastinate]

Now why would poor Fred be responsible for that 

Oh, I think I was unclear. Chopin's music uses a lot of repetition, but I think it holds together very well.

I don't think Chopin could go back in time and somehow influence Beethoven's compositions.

[outin]

Oh, I think I was unclear. Chopin's music uses a lot of repetition, but I think it holds together very well.

I don't think Chopin could go back in time and somehow influence Beethoven's compositions.

Of course, sorry, got it now...
I wish he could have gone back and do that for a couple of others too. Then again he was really into Mozart so I guess it would have been little help...

[j_menz]

Why the heck did you copy my signature?!?!!

Haha, you've never romped through the repertoire in your life! A good romp always starts with a fugue.

But you do remind me that I've stopped romping for a bit, so signature changed.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

A good romp always starts with a fugue.

But not a Bach fugue!   

Just becuse it's not by Bach doesn't mean that it's not a fugue.

[j_menz]

Just becuse it's not by Bach doesn't mean that it's not a fugue.

I've asked before and you avoided the question, so I'll try again. Have you ever played a fugue by anyone other than Bach?

I know there are plenty of others out there.

[unholeee]

chopin op 9 no 2.. ugh

[49410enrique]

I've asked before and you avoided the question, so I'll try again. Have you ever played a fugue by anyone other than Bach?

I know there are plenty of others out there.

exactly! (sort of), why does hardly anyone around here (seriously I can read daily and probably see this mentioned 1-3 times if at all in a year) not ever play, discuss, recall, etc  one of the greatest composers of all time/the baroque, who happened to write quite a bit of fantastic music accessible to us!?

Handel! coincidentally I am looking t georgy for my next baroque work after my romp with a bach sinfonia i am about to wrap up.

really,he should be explored, his suites in particular are quite outstanding

here is the f minor p& f (one of my favorite keys for these things), considering this as my sinfonia is also in f minor so have some momentum on this key so i'm quite comfortable with it, it will be hard enough to effectively manage four voices in a the fugue without an uncomfortable key siggy

richter and gavrilov thought he was worth the hassle....

ok, sorry for the off topic. i just love this music and when it took stock of how often (or really better said, how little) he is discussed or played around here I was a little shocked.

on music that peole seem to like a lot and that i don't quite understand why, lots of liszt's works, in particular those before his 'late period' (those in the late part of his life i actually love, a lot, but early stuff like the etudes, many of the hung. rhap.s, etc, i don't understand the fascination )

[zezhyrule]

As for something serious: Bartok's Sonata for Two Pianos and Percussion

I'm sorry, people who love this, I just cannot wrap my mind around this piece. I love most Bartok, but I hear this is the peak of his compositions? meeeh. It is certainly very interesting, I'll give it that.

Almost every Beethoven sonata actually.

Most of the pieces mentioned, I can see where the users are coming from. This, however, I cannot understand.  

[mjames]

Fantasie Impromptu...

The worst of the four.

[stoudemirestat]

on music that peole seem to like a lot and that i don't quite understand why, lots of liszt's works, in particular those before his 'late period' (those in the late part of his life i actually love, a lot, but early stuff like the etudes, many of the hung. rhap.s, etc, i don't understand the fascination )

What don't you like about this music?

[thalbergmad]

100% of Schumann is worthless drivel, but some seem to like it.

Thal