Scriabin Allegro de Concert Op 18

[49410enrique]

absolutely gaga in love with this piece. am considering it as part of my repertorie review for spring  pieces to study.

am just wondering if anyone knows if there are any other editions out there besides the one published by Belaieff Verlag (PE.BEL346). they are a fine publisher with quality scores and a good reputation (my understanding is they were Scriabin's original publisher).  but it's always nice to have a choice/to compare. also they can be pricey, shorter piece at about 5-6 minutes and 20-30 USD on a single work is a little steep, would be interested to know if there any good albums that include this piece in the mix. usually i can sniff this stuff out before posting/questioning but i'm honestly not finding anything, and the one i did find is the last copy in stock and only with one online retailer.

many thanks.

oh btw, always happy to help someone discover a new beautiful piece

alternate audio, like this one better-

[j_menz]

I think it's in the Dover edition:

https://www.amazon.com/Mazurkas-Poemes-Impromptus-Other-Pieces/dp/0486265552/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1352675954&sr=1-5&keywords=scriabin

I actually own this, but don't have it to hand.  I also don't know what it is reprinted from ("authoritative russian editions"), so may just be a duplicate of Belaieff Verlag.

[49410enrique]

I think it's in the Dover edition:

https://www.amazon.com/Mazurkas-Poemes-Impromptus-Other-Pieces/dp/0486265552/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1352675954&sr=1-5&keywords=scriabin

I actually own this, but don't have it to hand.  I also don't know what it is reprinted from ("authoritative russian editions"), so may just be a duplicate of Belaieff Verlag.

wouldn't be a bad thing either way, just if i'm gonna throw some cash down for a pd score, i'd like to get as much value for it as possible, and for such a short work, the entry fee seemed pretty steep. still worth considering, will look at your link here in a bit thanks for the head's up!

[andreslr6]

wouldn't be a bad thing either way, just if i'm gonna throw some cash down for a pd score, i'd like to get as much value for it as possible, and for such a short work, the entry fee seemed pretty steep. still worth considering, will look at your link here in a bit thanks for the head's up!

I have that book (Dover) and can confirm it has the Allegro de Concert op.18, I've considered playing that piece as well. This edition is a good one if you want to get as much as possible without paying too much, although I'm not liking any of Dover's books anymore, specially when I see other editions like Henle Verlags or the Barry Cooper edition of Beethoven's Sonatas and they not only contain the sheet music but also some notes regarding the composition, the process of the printing, editing and changes it had up until it was released, comment section regarding changes or differences between different editions, etc. In the end I prefer paying more and get all that (which in the end it turns up being useful, sometimes it may influence in your performance) than buying a cheaper edition that omits it, although it's not bad either.

Anyways, I only know of 2 editions of Scriabin's op.18, the Dover and the Belaieff. I'm not entirely sure but there's a chance that Henle has it too, I saw on their website a book containing selected pieces, so maybe it's in there, but I don't know. I'll try to post it here.

EDIT: Also, like J menz said, I have to check first but, I'm like 98% sure that the Dover is a reprint of the Belaieff one.

EDIT 2: Yep, quoting from the back of the Dover Edition "Unabridged Dover (1991) republication of editions published by various Russian publishers, 1893-1972. Glossary of French terms. 320pp. 9 x 12. Paperbound."
    From the fourth page: "This Dover edition, first published in 1991, is a new collection of works originally published separately, as follows:

 Valse(F moll), Op.1, P. Jurgenson, Moscow, n.d. [1893].
....
....
Allegro de concert pour piano, Op.18, Belaieff, 1897.
...."

So, it's a no-brainer, buy the Dover, it's the same for half the price and with dozens of pieces more. The Henle I mentioned before is a collection of various composers, not various pieces by Scriabin, so forget about that one too.

[haydnseeker]

I've got the Dover but I'd question its reliability.

I've studied and performed the 2 Poems Op. 32 from it, and they have a lot of misprints.

[quantum]

Peters may have it in their Scriabin volumes.  I've worked alot with the Peters Sonata volumes, and they are very helpful. 

I have seen some Könemann editions in used book stores.  Not sure how much Scriabin they have published, but what I have seen is in line with the quality you would expect from them. 

Personally, I've got the three Dover Scriabin books.  While there are notational errors, many of them are easily identifiable.  For me, such engraving errors are only a minor inconvenience and nothing to dissuade me from using the Dover editions - a little analysis goes a long way. 

[49410enrique]

Peters may have it in their Scriabin volumes.  I've worked alot with the Peters Sonata volumes, and they are very helpful. 

I have seen some Könemann editions in used book stores.  Not sure how much Scriabin they have published, but what I have seen is in line with the quality you would expect from them. 

Personally, I've got the three Dover Scriabin books.  While there are notational errors, many of them are easily identifiable.  For me, such engraving errors are only a minor inconvenience and nothing to dissuade me from using the Dover editions - a little analysis goes a long way. 

thanks everyone.

i love peters ed. they are grat, hq scores, always wonder why so many go gaga over henle (with some good reasons) but no one raves about them, they have been at it a long time and do what they do very well.

i own several of the konemann editions, they actually did a run of the complete scriabin piano works and i wish i had it. but to my knowledge they are out of print so i have only been able to wrangle up a few 'new old stock' copies at a book store here and there, but their stuff was great, accurate, nice printing, good binding, etc. where i find them on the cheap i almost always immediately buy (unless i already have an album of it, i.e. i came across agreat deal on the sonatas but i hadjust bought a vintage mca volume so i passed for time being, but it is so nice i may still go back and buy it and have two sonata collections!).

will look into the dover though in that i have good pdf reference scores so i can clear up any little mistakes, for the most part i am not as leary on newer music, less opportunity to mess it up for the most part and there are very reliable sources, for early stuff though i am much more picky (i.e .Bach, Mozart, even Chopin).

thanks again will continue looking around but the dover sounds like a nice option (i dont love them but i ahve a couple dover that i like very much, especially my gottschalk collection that i bought used, that one has been an amazing find., fyi i think it is out of print, i uploaded a pdf to my scribd if anyone is interested you can see and download of my profile if you're a member w dl privilages, if one is looking for a collection of his and sees this used on the cheap, very good buy, it's huge https://www.scribd.com/doc/110838189/Gottschalk-The-Principle-Works)

[j_menz]

gottschalk collection that i bought used, that one has been an amazing find., fyi i think it is out of print, i uploaded a pdf to my scribd if anyone is interested you can see and download of my profile if you're a member w dl privilages, if one is looking for a collection of his and sees this used on the cheap, very good buy, it's huge.

There's a Schirmer edition in print at a reasonable price too, if you prefer your sheets pre-bound.