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Offline micker

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WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
on: November 26, 2012, 04:21:41 PM
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recording of the start on my piano. its a demo recorded song, i like it.

1. is it hard to play? what kind of skill lvl is needed to play this?

2. any simular/souinding alike pieces thats easier to play? i would like to learn such a piece where it sounds like you played piano your entire life to a person listening to you play :p also like the way the song evolves, but im beginner at piano.

3. what piece is this?

sorry for my english.

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #1 on: November 26, 2012, 04:41:17 PM
I can't answer the other questions, but the piece is the third movement of Beethoven's 'Moonlight' Sonata, Op. 27 No. 2.

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #2 on: November 26, 2012, 04:42:33 PM
Would an beginner be able to learn this? Or is there any other pieces sounding alike that an total noob can learn?

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #3 on: November 26, 2012, 04:56:45 PM
Would an beginner be able to learn this? Or is there any other pieces sounding alike that an total noob can learn?

A beginner (except, perhaps, an unusually gifted beginner - probably in the 0.0001%) could not learn this, no. It would take years of serious study to be able to play a piece like this in a way that does the piece justice. That being said, it is certainly not a piece that is beyond the reach of pretty much any amateur pianist who truly works hard and smart at the piano for an extended period of time.

As for other pieces sounding alike that a total noob can learn...I don't think so. There would be pieces that are much easier and sound harder than they are (I don't know any, though), but most perceived similarities would only be at a superficial level...I'm not sure though, and i'm probably not the person you should look to for a definitive answer here.

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #4 on: December 11, 2012, 11:25:20 AM
0.0001% ?
i doubt it. more like 5 percent or so.

for a beginner maybe it'd take a year to get a page down, but certainly not years of serious study. come on unless you're born to destroy pianos, it won't take that long to learn the right notes

i can't click the youtube link sorry:/

on other pieces, try fur elise maybe? if your just a beethoven guy(which some people really just are) there are other sonatas by him, you can search them up. he has some super famous 3rd movements, like the tempest, pathetique.
yah

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #5 on: December 11, 2012, 01:21:40 PM
I really don't think the first thing to tackle for a beginner should be a Beethoven sonata.

I mean at least learn some rudimentary things first. =/

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #6 on: December 12, 2012, 05:50:02 AM
this piece is very advanced and should not be attempted by a beginner. its better to wait until you can at least play some of chopin's etudes at least perfectly to be able to know the extent of your ability.

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #7 on: December 14, 2012, 05:46:28 AM
I wouldn't call it VERY advanced. It is reasonably difficult for a beginner to learn. Why not play a sonatina by Clementi or some other rudimentary repertoire first?

Offline dcstudio

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #8 on: December 14, 2012, 03:28:46 PM
I wouldn't call it VERY advanced. It is reasonably difficult for a beginner to learn. Why not play a sonatina by Clementi or some other rudimentary repertoire first?

I actually tried to learn it as a beginner--well--way before I had the chops for it.  It frustrated me so much that I finally gave up--in fact I pretty much switched to jazz piano.  About 20 years later I picked it up and played through it, and found that it wasn't really that difficult.  It's a great workout for the fingers, too.

The only thing that was difficult was "unlearning" all the stuff I had practiced incorrectly when I had attempted it before.  ;)

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #9 on: December 15, 2012, 01:39:14 AM
That happened with me and Rach 3, which I attempted when I was 9 or 10  :P
Years later it was a pain to relearn all the fingerings to play it well...

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #10 on: December 16, 2012, 09:16:07 AM
it won't take that long to learn the right notes

If playing classical piano pieces just took "learning the right notes" a much greater portion of the human population would actually be playing these pieces.  The fact of the matter is, it takes years of practice for the muscles in the hands to develop and strengthen; a complete beginner will simply be unable to play a piece like Moonlight Sonata's 3rd movement -- it is physiologically impossible, unless of course the person is some sort of prodigy.
Repertoire:
Beethoven Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement
Chopin Etude in E Major Op. 10 No. 3
Chopin Etude in C# Minor Op. 10 No. 4
Chopin Waltz in C# Minor


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Liszt - La Campanella

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #11 on: December 18, 2012, 02:46:22 PM
Just because Moonlight is very repetitive and has very discernible patterns, does not make it "not all that hard".

Sure it's not that hard... if you're an advanced pianist.

If you're not, it is very physically demanding in the best case scenario.

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #12 on: December 18, 2012, 08:48:46 PM
Just because Moonlight is very repetitive and has very discernible patterns, does not make it "not all that hard".

Sure it's not that hard... if you're an advanced pianist.

If you're not, it is very physically demanding in the best case scenario.

I totally agree!
Repertoire:
Beethoven Moonlight Sonata 3rd Movement
Chopin Etude in E Major Op. 10 No. 3
Chopin Etude in C# Minor Op. 10 No. 4
Chopin Waltz in C# Minor


Working on:
Liszt - La Campanella

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #13 on: December 18, 2012, 10:42:42 PM
Just because Moonlight is very repetitive and has very discernible patterns, does not make it "not all that hard".

Sure it's not that hard... if you're an advanced pianist.

If you're not, it is very physically demanding in the best case scenario.
Moonlight 3rd movement is extremely easy because all it is is technique...scales, arpeggios, and tremolos. That's literally it. Of course, I am a professional pianist ;)

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Re: WHAT PIECE IS THIS?
Reply #14 on: December 19, 2012, 09:57:58 PM
Moonlight 3rd movement is extremely easy because all it is is technique...scales, arpeggios, and tremolos. That's literally it. Of course, I am a professional pianist ;)

Yeah reminds me of my teacher recommending me my first sonata.

"I think you'll manage Moonlight the best it's really not particularly hard."
"What about the third movement?"
"It's just arpeggios really, it's all nonstop patterns you just have to get them down."

I always find it funny because it is certainly true that once you are at a certain level of physical dexterity it really is "just a bunch of semiquaver arpeggios at 170bpm bah just a warmup!"

But I mean if you haven't spent years with the instrument to build that level of facility and technique, you're probably going to snap your tendons trying it.
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