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Offline Rockitman

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Is there a site on the net that has English translation for all the Italian descriptions in our music scores?   

What the hell does "Lento ma non troppo"  mean?

Offline steinwaymodeld

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #1 on: October 20, 2004, 10:51:12 PM
Is there a site on the net that has English translation for all the Italian descriptions in our music scores?   

What the hell does "Lento ma non troppo"  mean?

Lento = slow
ma = but
non = not
troppo = too

so it means, "Slow, but not too slow."
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Offline krittyot

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #2 on: October 20, 2004, 11:35:40 PM
which means "fast" ?
To be is to do (I. Kant)
To do is to be (A. Sartre)
Do-be-do-be-do (F. Sinatra)
Yabba-Dabba-Doo! (F. Flinstone)

Offline faulty_damper

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #3 on: October 21, 2004, 12:07:12 AM
Presto.

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Offline Cecin_Koot

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #6 on: October 21, 2004, 01:31:28 AM
presto means very fast.  Allegro is a bit slower, it means fast and lively

Offline Ludwig Van Rachabji

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #7 on: October 21, 2004, 01:51:59 AM
Or you could buy a pocket music dictionary.
Music... can name the unnameable and communicate the unknowable. Leonard Bernstein

Offline Rockitman

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #8 on: October 21, 2004, 02:37:09 PM
thanks all for the advice.   Except that last one of course...... buy something when it's free on the net??????   :)

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #9 on: October 21, 2004, 09:41:25 PM
Here's my personal favorite source for this kind of information: https://www.music.vt.edu/musicdictionary/
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Offline Ludwig Van Rachabji

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #10 on: October 21, 2004, 11:44:04 PM
thanks all for the advice.   Except that last one of course...... buy something when it's free on the net??????   :)


Sorry for trying to help, Rockitman...  :-\
Music... can name the unnameable and communicate the unknowable. Leonard Bernstein

Offline Tash

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #11 on: October 22, 2004, 02:47:06 AM
if you want some really random ones then buy the 2005 music diary from the royal opera house at covent garden! some really bizarrre terms in it, like 'bisbigliando' which means whispering and 'undulazione', meaning vibrato (strings). well i found it quite humerous, and if i ever compose something bizarre now i have bizarre terms to go with it!
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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #12 on: October 22, 2004, 03:33:32 AM
thanks all for the advice.   Except that last one of course...... buy something when it's free on the net??????   :)


I know right, because everywhere you go there will always be internet no matter what, plus it's much quicker to stand up and go to your computer which might not even be in the same room when you can just bring your dictionary along with you. But hey, maybe it's just me.  ::)

Then again, who needs all those other millions of less common yet still quite highly used definitions, right? Let's just have the basic ones. Let's also be cheap and not buy an inexpensive $6.00 book! Honestly, the stupidity of that post was immense. I think out of all the things I have bought for music, this small, handy, inexpensive, useful, book, is one of the greatest purchases I have ever made.

Offline Rockitman

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #13 on: October 22, 2004, 04:28:13 AM
Sheesh Darkwind!!.  Such a strong opinion.  I'm sorry there's not an icon for "tongue in cheek" because you obviously didn't read it that way. 
Ease up.  I had no clue there was such a book around and for only 6 bucks. 
I do know that my computer is right next to my piano and my synth and I wouldn't have to constantly refer to this book.  Only when I start a new piece and there are words I don't recognize. 
You think I'm cheap??  I just bought an $8000 hot tub and it's worth every penny too!!   Maybe after it's paid off I will be able to afford my next great purchase,,, a glossary of Italian terms handbook.  :)     (insert tongue in cheek icon here)

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #14 on: October 22, 2004, 12:09:01 PM
What does allegramente mean? I suppose it means either faster or slower than allegro, but don't know which it is... didn't find it in the links.

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Re: where can I find the meanings of all this Italian stuff?
Reply #15 on: October 22, 2004, 01:05:33 PM
What does allegramente mean? I suppose it means either faster or slower than allegro, but don't know which it is... didn't find it in the links.
Allegramente (It.), Allègrement (Fr.) - brightly, gaily

https://www.dolmetsch.com/defsa.htm

I found this using Google ;)

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