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Offline haydnseeker

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Misprint in Poulenc Suite - Presto?
on: December 31, 2012, 11:04:11 PM
I'm working on Poulenc's Suite for Piano (1920).  I'm puzzled by the end of the first movement (Presto).

The final chord is an irreverent young composer's jape, ending the piece with a loud discord.  But I'm not convinced that the bottom bass B is correct.  Can anybody who knows this work confirm whether it should be a C?

There other obvious or likely misprints throughout the score.  For instance, in bar 17 of the second movement the soprano Ds should surely have a natural.

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Re: Misprint in Poulenc Suite - Presto?
Reply #1 on: December 31, 2012, 11:32:04 PM
is it the suite fracaise for piano or is there another suite for solo piano that is just titled as you posted? apologies i am pretty familiar with poulenc but his piano output was really sizable. so i am not super privy to all of it...yet
i just acquired an oversized vintage durand edition score of this about a month ago, i will dig it up and check. have you listend to recordings, do different perfomers (preferrably separated pretty well chronologically) play it similarly as you score?

what edition (and year of publication) are you working out of? mine is a first edition i believe,  i have not seen any revisions. will get back to you. i'll try and post a picture of it.

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Re: Misprint in Poulenc Suite - Presto?
Reply #2 on: January 03, 2013, 12:39:36 AM
It's not the Suite française but another suite titled just as I posted.  I think it's sometimes referred to as Suite in C.  (It isn't the Napoli suite either.)

My copy is one printed by Chester Music in England.  There's no indication of it being a re-engraving, so I'd expect other printings to be the same.

I have a recording in the Poulenc series made for RCA by Eric Le Sage.  He plays a C at the bottom of the chord in question.  His recordings weren't received very favourably by reviewers, which I can understand because although he plays the notes impressively at speed he's only minimally attentive to the dynamic marks.  I don't have the more highly regarded recordings by Pascal Rogé.

I've not given Poulenc much attention in the past, but I'm learning this work for an anniversary event.  (He died in 1963.)

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Re: Misprint in Poulenc Suite - Presto?
Reply #3 on: January 03, 2013, 02:31:19 AM
i have a pdf of that chester one for the suite too.  poulence doesn't exactly 'behave' all the time tonally, i think the fact that the indication is for an increase in dynamic from previous mm F to final FF and that it has those accents and specifies 'sec' (dry /no pedal right?), all leads me to believe it's 'right' according to poulenc. if it really bothers you you voice to the C in the LH, as it's such a low note that its more a resonant effect than a clearn audible b natural as if it were in the same octave/next to the c.

that's how i would handle it unless i saw a definative other edition or otherwise.

have you searched to see if there are any academic disseratations floating around on interwebs (or on an academic database if you can access one) that discusses this work? sometimes i have found very good clarification going that route.

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Re: Misprint in Poulenc Suite - Presto?
Reply #4 on: January 03, 2013, 02:54:25 AM
Here's a performance that uses the B, and indeed emphasises it.



IMO, it works well.
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Re: Misprint in Poulenc Suite - Presto?
Reply #5 on: January 03, 2013, 02:56:22 AM
Here's a performance that uses the B, and indeed emphasises it.

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IMO, it works well.
yeah i like it too. gives it ooomph! ;D
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