memorization and question

[BoliverAllmon]

ok, so I am trying to start working with the ideas that chang and bernhard have presented. Would the following be wrong to do? I always memorize a section away from the piano before actually sitting down and learning it. It seems to work alot faster this way for me. I am on track to memorize 20 pages this week alone. In fact, I got bored a while ago and memorized the first page to Chopin's etude 10/1 in 45 min. I should of done it faster, but I am tired and already memorized 5 other pages previously today. Is it ok to go ahead and memorize the sections then work on them ala bernhard and CC?

boliver

[mosis]

Of course.

As Bernhard has stated many times, eventually, most of your piano practice will be done before you even touch the ivories. Mental practice is the most important.

[BoliverAllmon]

sounds good. My teacher is almost weirded out because I learn away from the piano. It tends to kill my sight-reading, but I don't really care too much. I always memorize things anyways.

boliver

[mound]

Nice. What aspects are you memorizing, the score itself or fingering?

Check out these threads:

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,2458.msg21365.html#msg21365

https://pianoforum.net/smf/index.php/topic,1894.msg14707.html#msg14707

-Paul

[BoliverAllmon]

i memorize both. The only othe person that I know of (not saying there isnt more) that memorizes completely away from the piano is Gould.  Do any of you guys do it?

boliver

[mound]

I would if I could.. that's many years off

[bernhard]

i memorize both. The only othe person that I know of (not saying there isnt more) that memorizes completely away from the piano is Gould.  Do any of you guys do it?

boliver

Actually a lot of pianists memorise away from the piano. An even more ardent supporter of this approach was Walter Gieseking, who actually wrote a most interesting book detailing how to go about it:

Walter Gieseking & Karl Leimer – Piano technique (Dover)

You may want to check it out.

Best wishes,
Bernhard.

[BoliverAllmon]

thanks for the info I will check it out.

[mound]

Bernhard -you should setup a partnership with amazon.com - put a "buy it now" button next to all these books you cite.. somehow I've developed the habit of immediately going to amazon.com at the end of reading many of your posts..

speaking of books, I sent you a PM about a book, I think I sent it at least.. this forum gives me no indication!