We need a spot on the Piano Forum Board for Composing!(only about new composing)

[brendan765]

I am an artist, and composing needs to be brought back to life!  A true artist doesn't just go to the piano and play music of the past but he goes to the piano and creates music of the future. 

Composers from the past who werent so ignorant towards this believed creating music and expressing music well is a true art.

Playing the teachers and past composers music is for study and performing as well but the pianist should compose his own music and look back at the books less over time.

[rachmaninoff_forever]

What do you mean by "only about new composing"? 

[j_menz]

I'm going to bump this one.

It would appear that recently we have had rather a surfeit of (usually midi generated) performances of original compositions posted in the audition room.  They do rather clutter it up, and ultimately serve a different purpose than the more usual posts there.

My vote would be for a seperate sub-forum, rather like the Improvisations board, for such posts.  That way, those with an interest in composition can mingle amongst themselves in a (hopefully) supportive environment.  The rest of us can dip in to see if there's anything we'd like to perform/play/see. And the audition room wil not be quite so schizophrenic in it's purpose.

[brendan765]

I'm going to bump this one.

It would appear that recently we have had rather a surfeit of (usually midi generated) performances of original compositions posted in the audition room.  They do rather clutter it up, and ultimately serve a different purpose than the more usual posts there.

My vote would be for a seperate sub-forum, rather like the Improvisations board, for such posts.  That way, those with an interest in composition can mingle amongst themselves in a (hopefully) supportive environment.  The rest of us can dip in to see if there's anything we'd like to perform/play/see. And the audition room wil not be quite so schizophrenic in it's purpose.

Not midi recordings, piano recordings. I hate finale; can't figure it out. And it's much easier to just write fast and shorthand and then make a final copy. I'm a very selective/unchangeable type of person I guess...

[ajspiano]

Not midi recordings, piano recordings. I hate finale; can't figure it out. And it's much easier to just write fast and shorthand and then make a final copy. I'm a very selective/unchangeable type of person I guess...

Not that I'm familiar with finale, but the scoring software I use was very cumbersome until I learnt to use the keyboard shortcuts almost exclusively..  musescore lets you determine note lengths with the number keys, and input notes/slurs/ties with the letter keys..  and there are numerous shortcuts for other alterations. I only use the mouse for manipulating the scores visual presentation.. such as putting dynamic markings higher or lower on the staff..

Learning to use your scoring software properly is pretty important I think, if you have to screw around to much it disrupts your creating flow. I just forced myself to copy out a few simple bach scores and soon got the hang of it.

[kakeithewolf]

Not that I'm familiar with finale, but the scoring software I use was very cumbersome until I learnt to use the keyboard shortcuts almost exclusively..  musescore lets you determine note lengths with the number keys, and input notes/slurs/ties with the letter keys..  and there are numerous shortcuts for other alterations. I only use the mouse for manipulating the scores visual presentation.. such as putting dynamic markings higher or lower on the staff..

Learning to use your scoring software properly is pretty important I think, if you have to screw around to much it disrupts your creating flow. I just forced myself to copy out a few simple bach scores and soon got the hang of it.

Nice to know Finale is not my only option. Sodding thing was being a pain with legato for me.

[rachfan]

I agree with j menz.  Compositions do clutter the Audition Room.  Where a sub forum was created for Improvisations, why not create a sub forum for member compositions?   It only seems fair.

David

[ted]

So were I to record a new performance of a piece I wrote forty years ago I  would put it in the Audition Room but if I recorded something I wrote today it would go in the Composers' Room ? And if half of it were improvised I would have a three-way choice ?

I could live with that if the majority of members want it. The only thing I am positively against is separation by genre.

[j_menz]

So were I to record a new performance of a piece I wrote forty years ago I  would put it in the Audition Room but if I recorded something I wrote today it would go in the Composers' Room ? And if half of it were improvised I would have a three-way choice ?

I could live with that if the majority of members want it. The only thing I am positively against is separation by genre.

It would probably depend on what you were seeking feedback on. If on your playing, then the audition room, as between the other two, probably a little more subjective but a midi file would clearly go in composition.

[ajspiano]

I agree with j menz.  Compositions do clutter the Audition Room.  Where a sub forum was created for Improvisations, why not create a sub forum for member compositions?   It only seems fair.

David

Seems to me like it would be fair to discuss compositional elements on a composition board. However, if I have a completed work with a score to post also and I'm primarily interested in discussing performance elements the audition room makes more sense to me...

The thing is, that I feel like this anti compositions perspective is fueled by a distaste for the lower quality compositions - which is understandable since sometimes they are either not actually performed or sound like random spatterings of notes.. but I also feel like I don't fall in that category, and that I would probably miss out on performance advice from the better people here who would be choosing not to look at the original compositions..

..not that I'm a frequent poster, as either interpretations or compositions.. and all 3 times I've posted a composition it has been in the students corner for whatever reason.

[j_menz]

The thing is, that I feel like this anti compositions perspective is fueled by a distaste for the lower quality compositions - which is understandable since sometimes they are either not actually performed or sound like random spatterings of notes.. but I also feel like I don't fall in that category, and that I would probably miss out on performance advice from the better people here who would be choosing not to look at the original compositions..

I wasn't actually considering the quality of the compositions per se.

It seems to me that some compositions are posted for composition related feedback rather than comments on the actual performance (indeed some have been midi). That's fine, but it seems to me a separate board would make clear what was being sought.

If you post an original composition primarily for feedback on your performance, then the audition room would still be the place to post it.

[khantallis123]

A Sub-board for new transcriptions?