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Offline Cecin_Koot

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Favourite period of musical history
on: October 21, 2004, 02:02:12 AM
what is your favourite period of musical history?  Medieval, Renassaince, Baroque, Classical, Romantical, or 20th century.

  If your favourite is 20th centuary be more Specific; is your favourite traditional, jazz, rock, disco 60s 70s 80s popular...

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #1 on: October 21, 2004, 02:42:35 AM
I'd say..... my favorite period is 20th century... specifically the early twentieth century when composers were trying out new ideas (although still tonal) like Debussy, Ravel, Scriabin, and Rachmaninoff.  And I really, really like Copland who is probably my 2nd favorite composer next to Ravel.

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #2 on: October 21, 2004, 02:45:05 AM
... piano forum....

90% should answer Romantical or early 20th century   ;D

 I say romantical

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #3 on: October 21, 2004, 02:46:05 AM
Romantic and 20th century for me

I love the romantic period because of Liszt, Schumman, Chopin, Alkan, etc..

and by 20th century, I mean like Rachmaninoff, Debussy....Cziffra and Horowitz transcription type stuff.  I also like the classy groups like the platters from the 50s.  I think music in general took a turn for the worst after 1970 to now.
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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #4 on: October 21, 2004, 03:11:44 AM
I must say I agree almost entirely with donjuan...with the addition of U2 as a post-70's band--well, ok, admittedly the actual *music* might not be the greatest but it certainly sings to my heart. Other than that, though, it's mostly rubbish.

I must say I like the Romantic era not just for the music but also the stories, which are almost always over-glorified, etc., but nevertheless cool. Things like Liszt destroying Thalberg in a piano duel and Dreyshock learning to play Chopin's 10-12 with the LH in octaves (and Liszt's comeback with the op. 25 no. 2)--those sorts of stories really suck me in.

And, yes, I love the 20th century transcriptions, particularly of Horowitz and Cziffra (there are several others but for some reason I can't pull out any specific names)...I really admire a pianist that makes virtuostic transcriptions for himself and plays them in public worry-free for encores. It seems like there is a shortage of that kind of pianist now, though I'm quite impressed by what Hamelin has done.

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #5 on: October 21, 2004, 07:11:22 AM
the early romantic period.
i wish there was more virtuosic early romantic pieces  :-\

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #6 on: October 21, 2004, 09:05:19 AM
no one likes Beethoven?

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #7 on: October 22, 2004, 02:59:57 AM
beethoven is the bomb, however i love the  late romantic, early 20th century works. however i do love the symphonies of the classical period. and i love baroque too. really it depends on my mood. i love them all!!!
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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #8 on: October 23, 2004, 02:06:28 PM
romantic! chopin is good. and liszt too -grins-
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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #9 on: October 23, 2004, 05:29:02 PM
My fav is all of the 20th century with composers such as Schoenberg (his piano concerto is WOW) and Lutoslawski (his Cello concerto is pure GENIUS!!!....his piano concerto is a close second). And obviously I like SOME Chopin (poloanaises!!) Liszt, Beethoven (I've had some tough times learning his works....) Rachmaninoff (WOOHOO...I LOVE the piano concertos and the Preludes). I also like Ravel and Debussy (please note there are in two tottaly different categories...didn't mean to pair them up as other people ignorantly do)...and basically everything else...

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #10 on: October 23, 2004, 07:06:31 PM
The 20th century..specifically the "Gangsta" rap era of the early nineties.  People like Public Enemy who paved the way. Wu Tang Clan.  Then Biggie and 2pac. However after the wwest coast east coast incident mainstream rap went downhill.  Jay-Z is the only one who kind of kept going where Biggie Smalls left off.  Everyone else (generally) in the mainstream all sounds the same and don't bring forth any new ideas.  It really bugs me that they're in a position to say something important and they just talk about how there bling brings them newfound respect in the hood. Grow up homies.

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #11 on: October 23, 2004, 08:25:41 PM
The 20th century..specifically the "Gangsta" rap era of the early nineties.  People like Public Enemy who paved the way. Wu Tang Clan.  Then Biggie and 2pac. However after the wwest coast east coast incident mainstream rap went downhill.  Jay-Z is the only one who kind of kept going where Biggie Smalls left off.  Everyone else (generally) in the mainstream all sounds the same and don't bring forth any new ideas.  It really bugs me that they're in a position to say something important and they just talk about how there bling brings them newfound respect in the hood. Grow up homies.

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excuse me, while I run to the washroom to retch.  :Pbblleaahhhughgghaaeeeaaghh :P :-\

 :)
just kidding, im sure you find some reason to like that stuff...
although I cannot say Rap is my favorite period in musical history.  frankly, I have difficulty putting it anywhere in musical history........

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #12 on: October 23, 2004, 09:43:22 PM
Rap is considered music? 
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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #13 on: October 23, 2004, 10:05:24 PM
Rap is considered music? 

I'd like to think so.  8)

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #14 on: October 23, 2004, 10:57:33 PM
And I really, really like Copland who is probably my 2nd favorite composer next to Ravel.

:)

Also, I'd vote for Impressionism. Ravel, Debussy, Scott, Griffes, they're all amazing.

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #15 on: October 24, 2004, 05:58:55 AM
Romantic and 20th century for me

I love the romantic period because of Liszt, Schumman, Chopin, Alkan, etc..

and by 20th century, I mean like Rachmaninoff, Debussy....Cziffra and Horowitz transcription type stuff.  I also like the classy groups like the platters from the 50s.  I think music in general took a turn for the worst after 1970 to now.
donjuan
i agree

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #16 on: October 24, 2004, 12:27:53 PM
And I really, really like Copland who is probably my 2nd favorite composer next to Ravel.

:)

Also, I'd vote for Impressionism. Ravel, Debussy, Scott, Griffes, they're all amazing.

debussy is not an impressionist he's a symbolist if you want to define him as anything at all! unless you're saying you like impressionism AND debussy and thus defining them as two different things ;)
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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #17 on: October 24, 2004, 02:53:27 PM
And I really, really like Copland who is probably my 2nd favorite composer next to Ravel.

:)

Also, I'd vote for Impressionism. Ravel, Debussy, Scott, Griffes, they're all amazing.

debussy is not an impressionist he's a symbolist if you want to define him as anything at all! unless you're saying you like impressionism AND debussy and thus defining them as two different things ;)

No one really was an impressionist, as they all denied the term. But there are certain composers who are grouped as impressionist simply because of their use of the music to portray a scene. Debussy's La Mer, for example, paints the image of the Ocean. Ravel's Ondine paints the image of a water sprite. Griffes' The White Peacock, well, you figure it out :p. Scott's Lotus Land, uses very unique harmony and chords well found in all "Impressionism." Although, they all denied the term. I call Debussy an Impressionist simply for historical reasons and for my own reasons I see fit.

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #18 on: January 23, 2005, 02:59:47 PM
Baroque.

It's a most refreshing sensation.
Does anyone else here think the opening of Liszt's 'Orage' (AdP - Suisse No.5) sounds like the Gymnopedie from Hell?

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #19 on: January 23, 2005, 07:24:32 PM
Baroque, and "neo-Romantic" (Rachmaninoff, Scriabin, some Prokofiev - Ravel too, but only for having lived during the same general time period).

However, from a musicianship standpoint, I believe that the turn of the century and before World War II featured the greatest performers. Though they couldn't improvise like Beethoven or Mozart, pianists like Rachmaninoff, Rubinestein, and Moiseiwich had a natural touch that very few pianists these days seem to possess. Of course, this is said without ever having heard Chopin or Liszt play piano.  ;)
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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #20 on: January 23, 2005, 10:00:17 PM
romantic and early 2000th century
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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #21 on: January 23, 2005, 10:12:16 PM
romantic and some early 20th century, though liszt i think would be my favourite

of the classics beethoven would be my favourite

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #22 on: January 23, 2005, 11:01:30 PM
romantic and early 2000th century

Wow, you must be from the future!! How's the weather?

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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #23 on: January 24, 2005, 12:28:06 AM
i just learned something new in my late 18th early 19th century music history class.  There were no PERIODs period.  It was just a rough estimate.  They just decided that 1750 sounded good for the beginning of the classical period because Bach died.  The book we are studying from is Reinhard Pauls "Music in the Classic Period"  This is funny to me, but probably draws people in and then changes their mind.  He calls the periods "styles" because they overlap so much.  He uses the "for instance" with the rococo which isn't fully baroque and isn't quite yet classical, but is lumped into the baroque.  it foreshadows the lightness of the classical style.  (also, he calls classics 'music that is timeless') classical music is lumped altogether, sometimes, to mean just that!

Some of the styles he calls:  late baroque, mid-century style(1740-70), classic style (1770-1800), early romanticism (from 1800) and following through on his idea, i guess mid and late romanticism (post romantic: as my teacher calls the last few nocturnes of faure') and modern, post modern,  where are we now?  my teacher says we are returning to tonality.  what is it called?  we went through expressionism, minimalism, serialism.  is it another "ism?" maybe tonalism?

ok. i ponder too much.  what do i like.  everything.  from ancient music (very interesting to hear how tunes travel), to folk music of bartok and kabalevsky, to russian music and more melodious things like schuman's a minor piano concerto  (i think it's the a minor i liked) and WOMEN composers, too, like Cecile Chaminade.  To me, every composer brings something to the table.  I like poetry and music combined so i must be a romantic classicist.  beethoven reminds me of shakespeare, which reminds me of mozart which reminds me of da ponte (which i am now reading about and admire) which reminds me of the rococo period which reminds me of the "golden mean" of which Mike May wrote an article entitled "did mozart use the golden mean?" it is kind of interesting.  I found it by typing in mike may or americanscientist.org/template and then mike may. 
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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #24 on: January 24, 2005, 11:38:42 AM
My favorite periods are the Baroque era
and the early 20th century (Ravel, Villa Lobos.....)
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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #25 on: January 25, 2005, 12:10:48 AM
The 20th century..specifically the "Gangsta" rap era of the early nineties.  People like Public Enemy who paved the way. Wu Tang Clan.  Then Biggie and 2pac. However after the wwest coast east coast incident mainstream rap went downhill.  Jay-Z is the only one who kind of kept going where Biggie Smalls left off.  Everyone else (generally) in the mainstream all sounds the same and don't bring forth any new ideas.  It really bugs me that they're in a position to say something important and they just talk about how there bling brings them newfound respect in the hood. Grow up homies.

your friend
Rob





public enemy?..tupac?..biggie?..JAY Z???? paving the way?????...no no no..you got it all wrong...just because most people in this forum arent familiar with the hip hop genre and its foundation doesnt mean you can get away with such statements....when speaking in terms of lyricisity...reffer to founders like Grandmaster Flash..Sugar Hill Gang..Slick Rick..Emcee Lyte...Furious Five...Mighty Souls..Early Del...etc etc...although i admire tupic as a passionate street poet..biggie for his perseverance to "change the game"..and public enemy for giving hip hop a political voice...the time you speak of is the introduction of DEATH to hip hop..leading to the mainstream noise polution, known as "rap" it is today...giving it a bad name..and its because of THOSE "rappers,"...that many people with a devine taste of music turn their nose up to the  "garbage"...when in reality..Hip Hop is a beautiful art...deriving from street poetry and DJ's improvising on percussional backdrops for foundation..(beats)

and as far as Wu Tang Clan and Jay Z go...money changes people..
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Re: Favourite period of musical history
Reply #26 on: January 25, 2005, 12:15:37 AM
oh yeah..forgot to answer the thread's primary question...i have a fascination with the Baroque, The classical...and the 20th century of course..although im still new to The baroque and classical (aswell as the romantic and even renaissance) periods..the more im being exposed to it the more i find it attractive artistically and technically...im actually taking a music course at my local community college and getting myself more familiar with composers of each time frame...
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