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Offline ranniks

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Rant mode: Fur Elise
on: January 07, 2013, 07:56:53 PM
GAWWWRRRWASADADSADSDAS! I nearly wanted to pull my hair out. The part where you go legato B flat and A and then B flat again to go to the 16s/32s is driving me crazy.

And the thought 5 year olds are playing this song is not helping at all.

The march in d major is going well though......Oh and I finally understand why I need to do scales: makes the use of all fingers, hurray.

Anyone els frustrated by some pieces?

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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #1 on: January 07, 2013, 08:26:30 PM

Anyone els frustrated by some pieces?

Most of them...every now and then.

Right now struggling with one half page passage of K434. It's easier techically than the rest of the 2nd half, but I just cannot get the notes and fingerings into my head. So this part I sightread (slowly) while I've memorized the rest of the piece and only need to make it smoother  >:(

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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 11:13:41 PM
Anyone els frustrated by some pieces?

No, not some.

All.


Not always, but most of the time.
"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant

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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #3 on: January 08, 2013, 05:00:57 AM
No, not some.

All.


Not always, but most of the time.

Now why is it that piano playing comes with so much frustration? Every time I am 100% sure that something just cannot be done, yet so far I have always managed if I just sit down and do the work...

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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #4 on: January 08, 2013, 05:31:42 AM
I, painting from myself and to myself,
Know what I do, am unmoved by men's blame
Or their praise either. Somebody remarks
Morello's outline there is wrongly traced,
His hue mistaken; what of that? or else,
Rightly traced and well ordered; what of that?
Speak as they please, what does the mountain care?
Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp,
Or what's a heaven for? All is silver-grey,
Placid and perfect with my art: the worse!
I know both what I want and what might gain,
And yet how profitless to know, to sigh
"Had I been two, another and myself,
"Our head would have o'erlooked the world!" No doubt.
"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant

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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #5 on: January 08, 2013, 06:12:58 AM
I, painting from myself and to myself,
Know what I do, am unmoved by men's blame
Or their praise either. Somebody remarks
Morello's outline there is wrongly traced,
His hue mistaken; what of that? or else,
Rightly traced and well ordered; what of that?
Speak as they please, what does the mountain care?
Ah, but a man's reach should exceed his grasp,
Or what's a heaven for? All is silver-grey,
Placid and perfect with my art: the worse!
I know both what I want and what might gain,
And yet how profitless to know, to sigh
"Had I been two, another and myself,
"Our head would have o'erlooked the world!" No doubt.

You just had to?  >:(

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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #6 on: January 08, 2013, 06:39:09 AM
You just had to?  >:(

It's actually a VERY appropriate quote, outin. If you really hate this form of expression so much, please go to the summary + commentary right away:
https://www.sparknotes.com/poetry/browning/section10.rhtml

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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 06:59:22 AM
I'm currently happily frustrated by the Scarlatti L487/K125 and Scriabin 2nd Sonata.  We're masochists at heart.
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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 03:47:28 PM
It's actually a VERY appropriate quote, outin. If you really hate this form of expression so much, please go to the summary + commentary right away:
https://www.sparknotes.com/poetry/browning/section10.rhtml


I took the time to read his quote and it certainly was appropriate. Just too many words  :P
If your link is some kind of "poetry for dummies" site it would be even worse than just suffer reading the damn thing right away  ::)

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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 10:56:09 PM
Just too many words  :P

I'll let Browning know, I'm sure he'll try and be briefer next time.  :P

And yes, I did have to.  ;D
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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 11:46:15 PM
Chopin. 1st ballade. How the f**k am I supposed to play 14 2 5 14 2 5 ... at the marked tempo? Ridiculous! I should have taken knitting classes instead of learning piano...
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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #11 on: January 09, 2013, 10:32:04 AM
I have chosen three more Nevue pieces to do. In Sweet Dreams and Sarlight, David in his own performance of the piece seems to go into some kind of gear change at measure 77-78 onward through that page. Maybe some sort of artistic license. However it's still 6 eigth notes in a measure in my mind, no timing changes that I can see, etc.. My real issue is keeping the bass moving without hesitation between octaves, though that's coming well enough now.

I may email him and ask what that speed change is about.

Don't pull your hair out, you will look funny bald !
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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 09:29:09 PM
I'm happy so many people can relate.

On the bright side, my teacher thought it was sufficient >.<, what endurance it did not take to play those 10 seconds.....

Dw David, I won't pull my hairs out just yet =p.

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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 10:15:10 PM
And my beast at the moment is two silly measures on the last page of Shubert Op. 90 #4.  The rest of it is decent.  Not fine.  Decent.  Those two measures?  AAAARGH!

I'll get them someday...

I've always sort of figured if it doesn't drive you bonkers somewhere in the piece, it's not hard enough to be really satisfying when you do get there... or something like that.
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Re: Rant mode: Fur Elise
Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 11:11:48 PM
No, not some.

All.


Not always, but most of the time.

100% this!
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