Finally .....

[Blessed-Wine]

  Hi I am happy to come into this site and it's really marvellous ....

I am starting my first lesson from a young man (17+ and he attained ABRSM grade 8 when he's 14) whilst I am in mid thirties and I am looking forward to it.

Just one question here ... I learn and play for my own leisure and just wondering how long roughly does it takes me to know to play the pieces by Richard Clayerman well as follows :-

Couieur Tendresse
Barcarolle
Bauade Pour Adeline
A Comme Amour
Lettre A Ma Mere
Mariage D'Amour
Nostaigy
Concerto Pour Une Juene Fiue
Piano Concerto No. 1 B-Flat Minor
Clair De Lune
Moonlight Sonata

plus some other popular oldies ......

Thanks

[mound]

Welcome!

Hi I am happy to come into this site and it's really marvellous ....

These forums really are marvelous. Thank you to the moderators for hosting it, and all the wonderful members. My eyes have truly been open since joining.

Just one question here ... I learn and play for my own leisure and just wondering how long roughly does it takes me to know to play

Unfortunately, there is no way anybody here can answer that question for you, not even with a rough approximation. How long does it take you to learn to play a piece? I have no idea, that depends on a world of factors. Congrats though on getting a teacher, hopefully he can help guide you, but I'd be hesitant to take lesssons from a 17yr old, regardless how good his playing might be. To be a good teacher requires wisdom and experience.. But good luck! See how it goes. Work hard, dedicate yourself to the craft, and read as much on these forums as you can!

-Paul

[Blessed-Wine]

  Thanks Mound for your kind reply and indeed I was also hestitant when I knew that his age is only 17.  However, someone got to start somewhere and I am giving him a chance to prove himself as well as he trying his best to teach what he can.

By the way,  I  am trying the first few months and see how it goes ... perhaps it benefit both of us ....

[BoliverAllmon]

The only thing that I would worry about with the teacher is his attitude. If he is mature, I seriously doubt having any problems. just remember he is the teacher and what he says goes. Don't look at him as a stupid teenager. That will never help either one of you.

boliver

[Blessed-Wine]

  Thanks for the concern and you may be right that perhaps I do not or cannot spot any error in his teaching as he's my first music teacher as yet.  I am having my first lesson on 1st Nov and may I input more info later as to how he present his teachings/how he play etc etc ...

Would appreciate if you could give me some feedback & opinon so that I can move forward ...

[BoliverAllmon]

also remember this. This is your playing. YOu have goals that you want to accomplish. if you outgrow and simply feel that the teacher can't help you get to that point. Don't be afraid to leave. I had a friend who outgrew his teacher, but stayed with her for years doing basically nothing simply because he became friends with her. don't be like that.

boliver

[Blessed-Wine]

Thanks for the reply but I've got a question here ... how do I get organised ?

Well, I've read somewhere in this forum that out of the different stages in learning piano, the most crucial & more difficult is during the very beginning like say for a year or so ... However, I do not really understand why is this so ?  Is it because during the very beginning stage, one got to struggle to learn notes, fingerings etc etc ?

What I am saying about how to organise is that how should I manage my practice time ... there are so many articles in the forum but how do I pick cos it's almost impossible to read all the 2000 posts ...

Therefore, are there any particular topic which are mainly deal for fresh beginners ?

Well, Mr Bernard, if you are reading this msg, you are the most wonderful contributor here !!! 

How great if I were to meet you in person ... CHEERS ! 

[Blessed-Wine]

  Well sorry for another question here :  I've read about the 15-20 mins practice but is it applicable for fresh beginners learning the notes or rather for later stage when you start learning a piece of music.

Also anyone has any views on why most famous composer like beethoven, mozart, chopin are all males  

[bernhard]

Well sorry for another question here :  I've read about the 15-20 mins practice but is it applicable for fresh beginners learning the notes or rather for later stage when you start learning a piece of music.

Also anyone has any views on why most famous composer like beethoven, mozart, chopin are all males  

It is specially applicable to beginners. Advanced players do all that stuff unconsciously. If you ask them they will give the most absurd explanations which do not tlly at all with what they are actually doing. They can do it, but usually they have no clue about how they do it.

During Beethoven etc. time, it was not on for women to pursue the composer's life style. So you could say that it was a matter of social and cultural mores. Nevertheless a number of female composers were around.

Nowadays they are far more common (a lot of them are writing pedagogical music).

There are over 6000 women composers on record (and many more unknown). Have a look here for some of them:

https://www.kapralova.org/DATABASE.htm

https://home.earthlink.net/~kgann/women.html

https://www.geocities.com/Heartland/7282/women.html#lists


I particularly like Amy Beach (who wrote many fine piano pieces), Cecile Chaminade (who also wrote mainly  and beautifully for the piano), Clara Schumann, Fanny Mendelsoohn (who apparently wrote some of the Songs without Words attributed to brother Felix), Dianne Rahbee, Pamela Wedgewwod (who writes superior pedagogical music), Martha Mier (also for her superior pedagogical music) and Agatha Groendahl-Backer (slightly reminiscent of Grieg)

Best wishes,
Bernhard

[Blessed-Wine]

  Hi Bernard

Thanks very much for your reply and these 2 days I have been reading the 7/20 method for practising.  Well, I am applying this on when I am now practising my "C" major scales (is it too early to start as I am barely a few weeks into learning piano).

Does this 7/20 not only apply to piano learning but also to other things lilke learning to sing a song etc etc ....

Thanks