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Offline trosa

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Do I need to go the traditional route? Improv Related.
on: January 20, 2013, 10:21:23 PM
What would you guys suggest if one's goal is more improvisation and composing melodies, rather than learning to play other peoples music. 

I want to become proficient with all of the scales, progressions, etc..

What route do you suggest I take? 

I was taking piano lessons for a few months and just felt like it wasn't taking me towards my goal of being able to find my own melodies and sounds proficiently.

Any advice?

Thanks in advance!

Offline bronnestam

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Re: Do I need to go the traditional route? Improv Related.
Reply #1 on: January 22, 2013, 07:29:16 PM
I reply from the POV of a fiction writer, not really a pianist (because I am not a skilled nor very experienced piano player).

The best, and ONLY way to become a fluent writer is to read a lot. Period. First, you have to know what's already out there. Second, you have to study other writer's tricks, mistakes and skills.

I guess the same goes for composing. You have to play a lot from other composers' work in order to make your own compositions.
"Good composers borrow. Great composers steal." /T.S. Eliot

Offline cjp_piano

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Re: Do I need to go the traditional route? Improv Related.
Reply #2 on: January 23, 2013, 05:07:00 AM
You need to find a teacher who specializes in improvisation as well as other skills. Too bad you're not near me, I teach it all!

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Re: Do I need to go the traditional route? Improv Related.
Reply #3 on: January 23, 2013, 08:06:57 PM
 Yeah, like others said, listen to a lot of music. Some people seem to have a knack for improvising and composing, but most of us have to work hard at it. I think a key element that may be missing is learning to play by ear. That doesn't say you shouldn't read music or learn theory, all of that is important too. I think being able to hear and absorb music of all types is crucial to being able to start creating your own.

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Re: Do I need to go the traditional route? Improv Related.
Reply #4 on: January 23, 2013, 10:54:19 PM
Play other peoples music. Do so not only by reading, but also by listening.

When you do, consider a process of learning that follows 3 basic principles, and do them from a compositional/improvisational perspective.

Imitate, Assimilate, Innovate. (not my words - courtesy of Clark Terry, jazz trumpeter)
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