important skills for pianist

[ladychopin]

I would like to make a list of important skills that a musician, especially - pianist should have.

here we go:
personal sound
technique
sight reading
be able to sing from the sheet music
be able to hear in his mind the melodie

what else?
Thank you!

[nikaeensina]

I think these are the most important skills:

playing trills smoothly
Playing scales very clear
Arpeggios
octavs

[pianoman53]

Taste
Ability to practice (or Ability to practice correctly)
Ability to listen
Observation
Love for music

[brendan765]

I would like to make a list of important skills that a musician, especially - pianist should have.

here we go:
personal sound
technique
sight reading
be able to sing from the sheet music
be able to hear in his mind the melodie

what else?
Thank you!

I'm not sure what you mean by personal sound... But creating music (composing) is the #1 trait of a good pianist. Playing just only music that's already been creating is ignorant..a good pianist composes.

And it can't be meaningless composing! I do it because I love music and being able to take thoughts about nature, my life, love...and communicating it through the Piano.

[lukediv]

Brendan765 talks so much sh*t. Not composing music is not ignorant. there is enough sh*t music out there without adding to it.

[thesixthsensemusic]

- flawless mechanical skills
- the ability to think ahead of the music
- well-trained memory and hearing
- a structured approach to practicing
- profound knowledge about vocal and orchestral music
- the ability to convey this into tone colour on the piano
- a natural curiosity
- being highly self-critical albeit in a realistic way

[brendan765]

Brendan765 talks so much sh*t. Not composing music is not ignorant. there is enough sh*t music out there without adding to it.

Well we all have different taste, but yes you're right i'm a pretty skeptical/critical person with strong viewpoints. And I would have to say your wrong...even though if I think someones music sucks or someones music is beautiful; to me I think it's completely true and don't understand how other people could disagree with me.  But people should still compose regardless, and if not born a composer they must learn the classical forms before composing an outrageous piece.
  From a historical standpoint; Who were the artists? Bach, Beethoven, Chopin, Gershwin, etc... Who are the artist going to be? Hiphop and Rock (sh*t music) takeover the market and will be remembered as the great artists of the future because composing is so scarce and obscure nowadays if you want to be remembered as a great pianist/composer past your death then you have to make a big effort to do so.  And all of the past great composers set a good example of how to be remembered.

  Composing is important. if the great composers did it why don't you try to compose hundreds of "modern" works, become a virtuoso, and transform the orchestra just as they did?

[lukediv]

Don't want my *modern* works to sound like this https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=50177.0

[brendan765]

Don't want my *modern* works to sound like this https://www.pianostreet.com/smf/index.php?topic=50177.0

What's wrong with this other than that I can't play it perfectly? Everyone I've played it for has thought it's great...a few teachers argued about how it's to Liszt sounding and far ahead of my abilities, but I won that argument.

[lukediv]

I think it sounds bad, and I don't understand how other people could disagree with me. For an opening section/first section it sounds like an ending. Maybe you should "reach virtuosity (lol)" first before you compose above your technical abilities.

[brendan765]

I think it sounds bad, and I don't understand how other people could disagree with me. For an opening section/first section it sounds like an ending. Maybe you should "reach virtuosity (lol)" first before you compose above your technical abilities.

whats liszt wilde jagd sound like to you then genius? Supposed to be a wild hunt. Maybe you don't understand that not every piece starts quiet. This is supposed to imitate cannons tearing apart two ships in the beginning and then the victory walk over to claim the other ship. and then a dance party on the stolen ship is the next section your hearing at the end of this clip..which I played so terribly! ( those are supposed to be soft legato rolled chords-sweet sounding.. which  then ends with an extremely grand ff fortissimo ending.

[p2u_]

important skills for pianist

I think skills have little meaning in themselves. There are some things that should be present or should be developed in a pianist for him/her to get good skills:
1) genuine love for/interest in music;
2) genuine love for/interest in people;
3) understanding of how the instrument works
4) understanding of how the human body works
5) understanding of how the audience listens, perceives music;
6) ability to work without distraction;
7) ability to let go of the ego and trust certain processes in life/nature.

P.S.: Seems to me that this topic belongs in another section of the forum; certainly not in "repertoire".

Paul

[brendan765]

I think skills have little meaning in themselves. There are some things that should be present or should be developed in a pianist for him/her to get good skills:
1) genuine love for/interest in music;
2) genuine love for/interest in people;
3) understanding of how the instrument works
4) understanding of how the human body works
5) understanding of how the audience listens, perceives music;
6) ability to work without distraction;
7) ability to let go of the ego and trust certain processes in life/nature.

Paul

ability to trust the -9.8 m/s sq. force of gravity!

[lukediv]

whats liszt wilde jagd sound like to you then genius? Supposed to be a wild hunt. Maybe you don't understand that not every piece starts quiet. This is supposed to imitate cannons tearing apart two ships in the beginning and then the victory walk over to claim the other ship. and then a dance party on the stolen ship is the next section your hearing at the end of this clip..which I played so terribly! ( those are supposed to be soft legato rolled chords-sweet sounding.. which  then ends with an extremely grand ff fortissimo ending.

oh, it sounds wild alright, it sounds like somebody who has never operated a cannon in their life, trying to operate a machine that is clearly out of their depth, and missing a lot of notes, oops, i sam boats, in the process, then crawling to the other ship to ask if they have a life jacket.

[brendan765]

oh, it sounds wild alright, it sounds like somebody who has never operated a cannon in their life, trying to operate a machine that is clearly out of their depth, and missing a lot of notes, oops, i sam boats, in the process, then crawling to the other ship to ask if they have a life jacket.

that was actually very funny, ***.