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Topic: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)  (Read 1800 times)

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I don't know why I didn't put this up earlier, but better late than never.

Above all songs I've made, this tune seems to pop back into my head the most. I don't know why, it just seems fairly catchy to me. It's among the most structured of my songs, having a repeating chord progression that comes up many times in the song and also bearing what is more or less a chorus in the song (which is played twice). It was, if I remember correctly, the first of my pieces in G-Flat Minor, but due to some technical issues, I have not been able to get the score transcribed to G-Flat Minor yet (It's stuck in F-Sharp Minor).

Due to an error I made when writing the chorus, part of the chorus is unplayable solo. To fix this, all that needs to be done is to shift back a certain chord, but even then, it requires some fast fingers. I've been trying to find a way to fix it without messing up the sound of the chorus. Until then, it is, unfortunately, a duet.

I tried making a higher quality MP3, but... no dice. Feel free to comment and critique, and as always, sheet music will be posted on request.

Edit: Just noticed near the end, it's off key for a few seconds. I'd make a new MP3 to fix it, but I'm preoccupied with fixing the sheet music as of now. Sorry.
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #1 on: February 19, 2013, 03:39:23 AM
Why have you called it a fugue when it clearly isn't? It isn't even polyphonic.
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #2 on: February 19, 2013, 04:16:58 AM
Why have you called it a fugue when it clearly isn't? It isn't even polyphonic.

I don´t even want to imagine how is he/she planning to write it as Gb minor  :o

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #3 on: February 19, 2013, 04:21:39 AM
I don´t even want to imagine how is he/she planning to write it as Gb minor  :o

With three sharp signs.  ::)
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #4 on: February 19, 2013, 06:13:35 AM
Why have you called it a fugue when it clearly isn't? It isn't even polyphonic.

To be quite truthful, I don't know why that's the file name. I just put up the name of the file as the title.
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 01:14:35 AM
I don´t even want to imagine how is he/she planning to write it as Gb minor  :o

With three sharp signs.  ::)

Where's your sense of adventure??



Real pianists can play in B flat-flat major.

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #6 on: February 21, 2013, 01:31:37 AM
Where's your sense of adventure??



Real pianists can play in B flat-flat major.

I once made something in G-Double Sharp Minor. Would have helped to know it was just enharmonic to C, though, lol.
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #7 on: February 21, 2013, 02:28:54 AM
I once made something in G-Double Sharp Minor. Would have helped to know it was just enharmonic to C, though, lol.

No it wouldn't, because it's not. It's enharmonic to Fm. E#m if you're feeling loopy.
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #8 on: February 21, 2013, 02:30:19 AM
No it wouldn't, because it's not. It's enharmonic to Fm. E#m if you're feeling loopy.

Oh, right. Maybe I confused the major with the minor.
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #9 on: February 21, 2013, 02:46:36 AM
Oh, right. Maybe I confused the major with the minor.

Here's a quick reminder:

Major:


Minor:
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #10 on: February 21, 2013, 02:50:22 AM
No it wouldn't, because it's not. It's enharmonic to Fm. E#m if you're feeling loopy.

Hey isn't G double sharp "A"?

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #11 on: February 21, 2013, 02:58:50 AM
Hey isn't G double sharp "A"?
Hmm...yes.  :-[

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #12 on: February 21, 2013, 03:29:25 AM
I trust you understand that you've only redeemed yourself if you did not use the copy and paste function.

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #13 on: February 21, 2013, 03:33:54 AM
I trust you understand that you've only redeemed yourself if you did not use the copy and paste function.

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #14 on: February 21, 2013, 03:41:52 AM
You should've editted the post to read "Fxxm or E#xxm (if you're more nutty than regular nuts)"

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #15 on: February 21, 2013, 03:57:02 AM
You shouldve editted the post to read "Fxxm or E#xxm (if you're more nutty than regular nuts)"

If I were going to edit, it would be to "A" without futher reference. Bbb is just as silly a Gx.

Quadruple and quintuple sharps were a step or two too far for Alkan and, in the case of equivalently extravagant flats, Feinberg. I don't want to be thouoght nuttier than either.

PS - Apostrophe man is hunting you down as we speak! ''shouldve editted", indeed.  ::)
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #16 on: February 21, 2013, 04:10:40 AM
''shouldve editted", indeed.  ::)

What on earth are you talking about?

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #17 on: February 21, 2013, 04:18:45 AM
What on earth are you talking about?

As if no-one noticed.  ::)
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #18 on: February 21, 2013, 05:03:04 AM
As if no-one noticed.  ::)

I did it deliberately anyway.

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #19 on: February 21, 2013, 05:08:07 AM
I did it deliberately anyway.

"With malice aforethought" is not usually the defence.
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #20 on: February 21, 2013, 05:13:36 AM
"With malice aforethought" is not usually the defence.

I'll take that into consideration if I decide to defend my actions.

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #21 on: February 21, 2013, 05:22:09 AM
I'll take that into consideration if I decide to defend my actions.

You prolly should read this before making your decision:

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #22 on: February 21, 2013, 05:26:36 AM
You prolly should read this before making your decision:



Firstly, the lack of an apostrophe has not yet been adequately enough linked to cancer for this to be relevant.

Secondly, "prolly" ? ::)

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #25 on: February 21, 2013, 05:38:51 AM
Where's your sense of adventure??



Real pianists can play in B flat-flat major.

Lmfao


So awesome


Fixin to listen to some of your woik, give me a sec
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #26 on: February 21, 2013, 05:44:11 AM
Lmfao


So awesome


Fixin to listen to some of your woik, give me a sec

uhh..  you quoted my post, but this isnt my compostion..  just incase you needed clarification.

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #27 on: February 21, 2013, 05:46:12 AM
Why is it digi? Did you call it a fugue because bach "uses no pedal"?

Its hard to hear any harminies when everything is same lebel, no dynamics between left and right hand or voices, which is what bach should at least help you assume. So check that out. Dynamics are fun. Although, playing each hand all in same dynamic cold be difficult as well...
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #28 on: February 21, 2013, 05:49:08 AM
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So,

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #29 on: February 21, 2013, 05:50:55 AM


not sure if staff or seashell. will pay to listen closely.

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #30 on: February 21, 2013, 05:58:33 AM
Why is it digi? Did you call it a fugue because bach "uses no pedal"?

Its hard to hear any harmonies when everything is same level, no dynamics between left and right hand or voices, which is what bach should at least help you assume. So check that out. Dynamics are fun. Although, playing each hand all in same dynamic cold be difficult as well...

It's digital because of how I have to release my music. I don't really have anything but piano at my disposal, but I write for a little more than just piano. That, and it makes it so I can remove the problem of technical limitations I have (stuff like poor penmanship, trembling habds, and skill cap).

As for the latter question, for the most part, yes, that is the reason I call this a fugue. Nevertheless, I assure you the problem only exists on the digital side. When I play parts of the song (whatever my fuzzy mind remembers), I have differing dynamics. I'm planning on overhauling the sheet music to this, but I really do want to get a proper mind of the dynamics I am looking for before I go through with it.

Edit: Oh, G-Flat Minor. What hath thou wrought?
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #31 on: February 21, 2013, 06:15:52 AM
Yes, you will need to learn fancy french and italian words and indications(lots) of what your compositional intent is...then use the power of acoustics to communicate it.
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #32 on: February 21, 2013, 06:18:06 AM
Yes, you will need to learn fancy french and italian words and indications(lots) of what your compositional intent is...then use the power of acoustics to communicate it.

That's the best summation of dynamics I've seen for quite a time.
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #33 on: February 21, 2013, 06:19:51 AM
Thank you! I quoted my teacher a little bit...can't take all the credit!
"Beethoven wrote in three flats a lot. That's because he moved twice."

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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #34 on: February 21, 2013, 06:44:54 AM
Thank you! I quoted my teacher a little bit...can't take all the credit!

All? No. Some? Perhaps.
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Re: Original Composition: Wolvenjacht (Klein Fugue in G-Flat Minor)
Reply #35 on: February 21, 2013, 08:24:30 PM
I don´t even want to imagine how is he/she planning to write it as Gb minor  :o

Gb minor is what you get when you've played a piece in F# minor so many times that your performance begins to sound flat.  ;D
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