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Offline kakeithewolf

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Is there truly a genre that is irredeemable?
« on: February 20, 2013, 12:23:53 AM »
I pondered this, myself, when I listened to a piano cover of a song from a genre I loathe intensely: dubstep. Somehow, though, when it was being played on piano... it actually sounded nice and tranquil. So I started thinking... Is there any genre that is discordant to the point where you cannot just change the instruments to any of the songs and make them better?

Barring weird things like randomly generated sheet music, 99% of John Cage's works, and the like, is it possible to keep true to a genre that sounds inherently terrible and simply change the instruments to a song (eventually, you'd hit a good one) to fix it, for any given genre? Or is there something that just can't be saved?
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Re: Is there truly a genre that is irredeemable?
«Reply #1 on: February 20, 2013, 03:15:47 PM »
African Drumbeat.
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Offline kakeithewolf

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Re: Is there truly a genre that is irredeemable?
«Reply #2 on: February 20, 2013, 03:20:50 PM »
I didn't think that was actually considered a genre. Learn something new every day, I guess.

I've heard of a genre called "Noisecore". It's possibly the most abhorrent form of "music" (I use music VERY loosely here) to exist. It's completely random placement of static, sped up or slowed down sound effects, and white noise, with long random periods of silence. No notes, no form, no rhythm. Just discordant chaos.

In other words, John Cage's dream genre.
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Re: Is there truly a genre that is irredeemable?
«Reply #3 on: February 20, 2013, 03:22:44 PM »
I didn't think that was actually considered a genre. Learn something new every day, I guess.
I don't know if it is, I was just pointing out something that is clearly non-transferable :P
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Offline chopin2015

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Re: Is there truly a genre that is irredeemable?
«Reply #4 on: February 21, 2013, 06:40:05 AM »
Pipe organ doesnt have particular overtones.
Say I played a jazz organ song on an organ with a different timbre, or even worse...a tine instrument...they have such different tendencies. You could hear more dissonance of the same song on one instrument, yet not the other(but the jazz organ really was masking a lot of dissonance from the chords that were very large and complex). Likewise, a less complex instrument could not turn dissonance into harmony and make music out of pure tones....hmmm
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Re: Is there truly a genre that is irredeemable?
«Reply #5 on: February 21, 2013, 06:43:12 AM »
Pipe organ doesnt have particular overtones.
Say I played a jazz organ song on an organ with a different timbre, or even worse...a tine instrument...they have such different tendencies. You could hear more dissonance of the same song on one instrument, yet not the other(but the jazz organ really was masking a lot of dissonance from the chords that were very large and complex). Likewise, a less complex instrument could not turn dissonance into harmony and make music out of pure tones....hmmm


Organs... truly a work of magic.
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