Piano Forum

Topic: could hanon help me?  (Read 1557 times)

Offline marao

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 27
could hanon help me?
on: March 09, 2013, 11:38:25 AM
I have read many different opinions about the use and benefits of hanon and other studies of this type.
I noticed that many do not find any sense in them and I felt a little more freedom to didnīt them systematically.

My question is:
in specific situations I encounter much difficulty in some passages of the pieces, whose movements are not common, for example, thirds intervals with 4 and 5 fingers, how to solve? in these cases I use the studies?

Iīm  beginner and got ready for the Chopin preludes op 28 # 15 and # 4. Now I'm working on a Haydn sonata 37 D major ... these movements thirds, especially with the left hand - fingers too weak and clumsy.

thank you!

Offline iancollett6

  • PS Silver Member
  • Full Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 164
Re: could hanon help me?
Reply #1 on: March 09, 2013, 10:56:35 PM
Possibly the administrators of this forum could have a subsection totally dedicated to Hanon discussions?!..In answer to your question, yes, I think Hanon could help you. Quite possibly the next reply will be ,no, Hanon will not be of any help.
"War is terrorism by the rich and terrorism is war by the poor." Peter Ustinov

Offline thalbergmad

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16741
Re: could hanon help me?
Reply #2 on: March 09, 2013, 11:46:34 PM
To avoid pages of pompous drivel, it would be best for the thread originator to use the search function, where the myriads of posts will be somewhere between "Hanon will make you a great pianist" to "Hanon will cripple you for life".

Thal
Curator/Director
Concerto Preservation Society

Offline j_menz

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 10148
Re: could hanon help me?
Reply #3 on: March 09, 2013, 11:47:07 PM
Rather than trying to find something relevant in Hanon, why not make up your own exercise from the pieces you are playing.

Take a bar that gives you difficulty, and practice it. Go up by tones, then by semi tones, repeating the same figure. Change the timing, so its in thirds, fourths, sixths. Loud, soft, stacatto, legato.

It will be of direct benefit to your pieces, and you can apply it straightaway.
"What the world needs is more geniuses with humility. There are so few of us left" -- Oscar Levant

Offline wnlqxod

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 39
Re: could hanon help me?
Reply #4 on: March 10, 2013, 04:46:53 AM
Hanon, IMO, is a nice lil' introduction to finger-wiggling and a good warmup book.
You want the solution to technical problems?
Go learn all 30 Inventions and Sinfonias by J.S. Bach, BWV 772-801.
These 30 pieces were intended as technical exercises, albeit musical enough to be performed in a concert- in this aspect, J.S. Bach was writing concert Etudes like Chopin before Chopin pioneered concert Etudes (i.e. Op. 10 and Op. 25). Bach is more than a hipster- he's a master.
Granted, almost all of them are no longer than a page~ page and half or so.
That should give you a rock solid technical foundation.

So,
Quote
thirds intervals with 4 and 5 fingers
Well, many chords and arpeggios in first inversion will provide you with the 4 and 5 thirds muscle memory. Do not neglect your basic chords and arpeggios- they provide you with quick, easy muscle memories for all kinds of nifty little intervals (chords and apreggios can help solve problems with thirds, fifths, and sixths- they provide the requisite muscle memory)

Offline marao

  • PS Silver Member
  • Jr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 27
Re: could hanon help me?
Reply #5 on: March 10, 2013, 11:33:59 AM
Thank you for the answers - all of them.

Sorry for the question, now I know that it is a polemic and undesired question.

Offline thalbergmad

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 16741
Re: could hanon help me?
Reply #6 on: March 10, 2013, 06:34:47 PM
More of an undesired answers :)
Curator/Director
Concerto Preservation Society

Offline bronnestam

  • PS Silver Member
  • Sr. Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 716
Re: could hanon help me?
Reply #7 on: March 11, 2013, 02:18:22 PM
I think the Chopin Etudes are great exercise pieces too - provided that you play them SLOWLY. They are very difficult if you try to play them a tempo, but actually they sound very good in slow tempo as well. And they are fun. And of course you can skip parts that you don't want to play right now.

Well, I just happen to love Chopin.  :)
For more information about this topic, click search below!

Piano Street Magazine:
The World of Piano Competitions – issue 1 2024

The World of Piano Competitions is a magazine initiated by PIANIST Magazine (Netherlands and Germany) and its Editor-in-Chief Eric Schoones. Here we get a rich insight into the world of international piano competitions through the eyes of its producers and participants. Read more
 

Logo light pianostreet.com - the website for classical pianists, piano teachers, students and piano music enthusiasts.

Subscribe for unlimited access

Sign up

Follow us

Piano Street Digicert