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Offline ming304

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Practicing on weighted keyboard instead
on: March 29, 2013, 10:15:18 AM
Hi, my current living circumstances only allow me to make use of renting weighted keyboards to practice and I'm only able to make use of an actual mini yamaha grand piano in 'ok' condition once or twice a week.

Will extended practicing on weighted keyboards eventually adversely affect my touch or other aspects of my playing?

I'm using a Roland RD-300NX if anyone wants to know.

And my level of playing is LTCL standard.

Offline lonelagranger

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Re: Practicing on weighted keyboard instead
Reply #1 on: March 29, 2013, 09:27:08 PM
Not at all in my opinion.  In the 70 and 80's I only had acoustic pianos.  After that I have had only electronic.  I use a Roland X8 connected to my computer playing Ivory software.  I feel the workout I get is as good as any of the acoustics that I had.  Also I have no problem playing a 9' concert grand expressively.  I think a lot is in how you practice.  Your posture and keyboard position. You need to be relaxed.

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Re: Practicing on weighted keyboard instead
Reply #2 on: March 29, 2013, 10:38:20 PM
Nice stage piano !

I have my issues with both my grand and my digital ( Kawai MP6) lol ! I wouldn't say one inhibits growth in the other, they both just have a little different technique required in some areas. Also much depends on how you set up the digital touch response. I mimicked the grand touch in the Kawai as close as I could get it for now. Overall, the Kawai's touch is a bit heavier than the grands after the let off/escapement occurs. So in light touch trills and mordents for instance, if I can do that on the Kawai within a piece, I certainly can on the grand. In terms of expression I use each in different ways. Both are very expressive but the digital of course has so many added features it's hard to describe the difference in real terms . At least so at the moment because supper is on the table !!

Be careful setting up the Rolands touch, it should be fine.
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.

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Re: Practicing on weighted keyboard instead
Reply #3 on: March 29, 2013, 10:46:31 PM
I have used a Virgil Practice Clavier for forty-five years and have found it of incalculable benefit. The touch can be made as high as fifteen ounces but I only use it on five or six. If used properly, without strain, with common sense, variety and discretion, it will not harm you. On the contrary, I don't think I could maintain the technique I have at sixty-five without it. Marathon sessions are unnecessary though, ten minutes or so a day will do.
"Mistakes are the portals of discovery." - James Joyce

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Re: Practicing on weighted keyboard instead
Reply #4 on: March 29, 2013, 10:49:13 PM
Huh, you can set-up the touch on this thing? I didn't know that  :o

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Re: Practicing on weighted keyboard instead
Reply #5 on: March 29, 2013, 11:30:08 PM
Huh, you can set-up the touch on this thing? I didn't know that  :o

Dig out your manual ! I assume so on the Roland ( I don't own the Roland). My Kawai is about infinately adjustable in some ways but not really in terms of weight. What do I mean by that ? Well the weight is set ( the graded weight remains the same), though velocity is not, that's variable. So is dynamic response. By that I mean how loud it plays a note at the lightest touch setting vs strongest and by how rapidly you hammer down on a note. Add to this EQ response and Tonal response and well, you just have variability on setup that would cost thousands for a tuner to perform on a grand. As I said in my other post, I set my digital up to fairly closely mimick the grand I own.

Pedal is another matter. The kawai has a great pedal for a digital, it is also touch sensative or variable in response. It however, is not as much so in this regard as the grand is. Still, for digital it's very good.

So my practice experience on the digital in terms of key and pedal function isn't so far off from the grand so as to present a problem.. The grand resonates more in a natural way, the digital plays through speakers. That is a definate difference.
Depressing the pedal on an out of tune acoustic piano and playing does not result in tonal color control or add interest, it's called obnoxious.
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